<![CDATA[Does anyone know if ray ever suggested taking atp straight up?]]>I know Haidut did but that was a long time ago from what I could find. Anything anyone knows about taking the supplement (capsules) would be helpful thanks

]]>https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/9476/does-anyone-know-if-ray-ever-suggested-taking-atp-straight-upRSS for NodeTue, 11 Aug 2026 14:04:41 GMTFri, 31 Jul 2026 16:52:17 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Does anyone know if ray ever suggested taking atp straight up? on Sun, 09 Aug 2026 23:36:54 GMT]]>@bio3nergetic Agreed it is a waste of money

]]>https://bioenergetic.forum/post/65835https://bioenergetic.forum/post/65835Sun, 09 Aug 2026 23:36:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Does anyone know if ray ever suggested taking atp straight up? on Sun, 09 Aug 2026 14:42:27 GMT]]>@lobotomize Right.

At best, orally you get some purinergic signaling, a touch vasodilation maybe, which is what that study is demonstrating, not direct ATP cellular restoration. At worst, it's somewhat a waste of money. I.V. ATP however is really something to refrain from altogether.

]]>https://bioenergetic.forum/post/65827https://bioenergetic.forum/post/65827Sun, 09 Aug 2026 14:42:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Does anyone know if ray ever suggested taking atp straight up? on Sun, 09 Aug 2026 04:27:13 GMT]]>@jamezb46 it isnt orally bioav

]]>https://bioenergetic.forum/post/65824https://bioenergetic.forum/post/65824Sun, 09 Aug 2026 04:27:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Does anyone know if ray ever suggested taking atp straight up? on Sun, 09 Aug 2026 02:44:23 GMT]]>There are studies showing that ATP powder taken orally is ergogenic. You can find it sold as peakATP.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34957398/

]]>https://bioenergetic.forum/post/65822https://bioenergetic.forum/post/65822Sun, 09 Aug 2026 02:44:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Does anyone know if ray ever suggested taking atp straight up? on Fri, 07 Aug 2026 14:21:32 GMT]]>@bio3nergetic thank s @sunsunsun @lobotomize @bio3nergetic

]]>https://bioenergetic.forum/post/65809https://bioenergetic.forum/post/65809Fri, 07 Aug 2026 14:21:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Does anyone know if ray ever suggested taking atp straight up? on Mon, 03 Aug 2026 17:20:46 GMT]]>Yes, extracellular ATP acts as a pretty potent danger signal that triggers inflammatory responses when it enters the extracellular space. It'll cling to purinergic receptors on immune cells, like macrophages, T cells, and mast cells etc, activating pathways like NF-κB and the inflammasome. I definitely would not use ATP directly. The IV NAD+ fad comprises of the same concept.

]]>https://bioenergetic.forum/post/65768https://bioenergetic.forum/post/65768Mon, 03 Aug 2026 17:20:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Does anyone know if ray ever suggested taking atp straight up? on Sun, 02 Aug 2026 20:49:06 GMT]]>@sunsunsun it was about nmn being inflammatory in some way . i dont think pea ever talked about atp as it was and still is extremely rare niche and addresses the symptoms not the root

]]>https://bioenergetic.forum/post/65754https://bioenergetic.forum/post/65754Sun, 02 Aug 2026 20:49:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Does anyone know if ray ever suggested taking atp straight up? on Sat, 01 Aug 2026 00:26:35 GMT]]>@16characterstwas I actually recall someone, maybe it was ray, saying something negative about ATP. I read it a couple days ago somewhere. I know how that sounds, but just saying. I remember it because of how it sounds to say ATP is le bad.

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