Ray peat perspective of showering daily
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Has Ray peat Ever spoken about showers? I know he spoke about soap. I took a break from showering for 3-4 days and my hair got less greasy so Im wondering if Ray peat has ever commented on showers. Thank you!
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I like to shower everyday, dont know why but its really nice. Think its something to do with negative ions, magnetic charge. Water is powerful
Some people do it like 2 times a week that must be rough
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@heyman said in Ray peat perspective of showering daily:
I like to shower everyday, dont know why but its really nice. Think its something to do with negative ions, magnetic charge. Water is powerful
Water immersion can be beneficial, tap water is goyslop
Some people do it like 2 times a week that must be rough
Some people body showers off since peat mogging
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@heyman said in Ray peat perspective of showering daily:
I like to shower everyday, dont know why but its really nice. Think its something to do with negative ions, magnetic charge. Water is powerful
Some people do it like 2 times a week that must be rough
I like showering (or soaking in the bathtub) daily, too. I find it restorative, and agree water is powerful.
@williambjr, Ray had this to say on the topic:
Bath, Washing, Shower, Sauna, Jacuzzi
Warm showers can lower stress, and if the bath isn't too warm, it's effective, too; if the bath raises the body temperature, that can cause the metabolism to increase, sometimes causing low blood sugar.
A sauna or hot bath, by increasing your metabolic rate, can quickly deplete the glycogen in your liver, causing hypoglycemia. If you eat protein without enough sugar or other carbohydrate it can cause hypoglycemia, too, so it's important to have lots of orange juice and milk, for frequent snacks.
[Jacuzzi and hot tubs] Getting the body temperature too high can deplete glycogen and lower blood glucose, sometimes causing fainting, probably why people occasionally drown in hot tubs; high temperature can damage the testes, reducing sperm production.
[Fluoride in showering/bath water] I don't think it's a problem. The soaps and shampoos people use are worse problems. Just washing the skin with pure soap alters the skin's endocrine function for days. and doing it every day is an "endocrine disrupter," even if there are no toxic additives in the soap.
[Shower with a little instant coffee: feeling, looking better] Some caffeine can be absorbed through the skin, but caffeine is a diuretic, so you probably aren’t absorbing enough. Do you drink coffee with your meals? [Yes. I still don’t know what it is doing in my body.] It might be from the cafestol and kahweol—they are fat soluble and well absorbed by the skin.
https://expulsia.com/health/emailexchanges#Bath.2C_Washing.2C_Shower.2C_Sauna.2C_Jacuzzi
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@Jennifer yes I Saw that though I dont find it clear of he”s saying its good or bad
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Interesting that Peat said even clean soap without any toxic additives is bad. What do you guys use for showering and hair? I guess the best would be just water, but my hair gets greasy and I start to smell if I only use water. There's also no adjustment effect, like other people report, although it's been many years since I've last tried it.
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@Luke I haven't used soap for shower for many many years but I still use shampoo once, twice a week.
Try to find a decent shampoo that isnt that bad and its ok, I use scandinavian biolabs. Most shampoo tend to take away all the fats, makes it really dry
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@williambjr, gotcha. I tried searching his interviews for his opinion on showering and not showering or reduced frequency, but didn’t find anything. Personally, I would trust your experience.
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@luke, my natural scent or “odor” is basically non-existent due to my diet so I’m not sure how effective my cleanser is in that regard, but I use one that’s a centuries-old, Asian recipe made with soapberries (cleanses via saponins) and other fruit/herbs with probiotics. It’s technically edible. I’ve been using it for at least a decade and before that I made my own soapberry cleanser—just brewed up soapberry (reetha), acacia (shikakai) and gooseberry (amla) together with herbs like horsetail and nettle, and added floral oils.
For my body, I bathe with just water then use monoï oil (Tahitian gardenias macerated in coconut oil) all over to lock in moisture, but my hair is thigh length and would be a tangled mess if I didn’t shampoo it—I did the no-poo method for a year and it was a disaster. I don’t know if the cleanser and oil are endocrine disrupters by Ray’s standards—they aren’t by the EWG’s, last I checked—but their ingredients are nutritive (per the indigenous) and my hair and skin are noticeably healthier, i.e., shinier hair with less breakage/fallout and softer, clearer skin.
In case you’re interested, this is the shampoo:
https://www.earthtemplefoods.com/products/raw-soap-nut-shampoo-with-probiotics-1-gallon
And to check the safety of skincare products, here’s the EWG website:
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@Jennifer A shame the shampoo company dont ship outside of usa, would like to try that nut shampoo.
The monoi oil, is that good?
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@heyman, there are several companies selling the same soap nut probiotic cleanser and conditioner, but some with the addition of essential oils. Here are two that ship internationally:
https://rootsandleaves.info/collections/bath-shower-care
I’ve been using the monoï oil for over a decade and it’s one of only 3 products I kept when I simplified my skincare routine, I think it’s that good. It goes on lighter than the plain, virgin coconut oil that was my previous staple, the gardenia’s anti-inflammatory properties drawn out through the maceration process calm my skin when it gets irritated from hiking in harsher conditions, and it smells nice, IMO—it’s a strong floral when first applied but softens quickly to an exotic vanilla scent, at least with my body chemistry.
I like macerated oils, in general, and have made a variety including osmanthus, an anti-inflammatory containing caffeic and chlorogenic acid and a scent reminiscent of apricot, and one for inducing sleep when I struggled with insomnia that combined chamomile with vanilla, an anti-inflammatory known to mimic the relaxing scent of breast milk, which may sound weird but I read studies showing its effectiveness on babies and it worked on me, too. I’ve been thinking of trialing one that combines vanilla with sandalwood and tobacco leaf as a pain relief ointment. I bet it would smell particularly nice on a man, better than Bengay, anyway. lol
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@Jennifer Thank you very much for the reply!
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Yeah, I prefer to shower every day, but I only use shampoo and bodywash twice a week (and the bodywash only under the arms and sometimes nether regions). I get the one from Aldi with the fewest ingredients (my only demand is that the ingredient list is shorter than a Dostoevsky novel). Normally products for "ultra sensitive skin" have the least bad ingredients, but I assume that's still very bad. It does dry out the hair, like heyman mentioned.
Years ago I used a seasalt soap based on coconut oil, but I don't remember whether that had other bad ingredients.
I needed almost no shampoo when I shaved my hair to 9mm, but it doesn't look good. Also, my hair is pretty messy, so I have to use a hair wax based on coconut oil, which probably contributes to the greasy look I get when I don't use shampoo.
