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  • Place to discuss the work of Ray Peat, Otto Warburg, Albert Szent-Györgyi and the interdependence of energy and structure

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    cs3000C
    i.p dosing and oral dosing varies a lot in bioavailability, there's no simple conversion or estimation in difference 2 layers when you ingest a substance to get through to main blood: intestine with its enzymes & barrier (or more rarely the stomach), then the liver with its enzymes. (gastric acid can affect some things too e.g bromelain where rodents have less acidic fasted ph vs humans) I.p bypasses the need to go through intestine, just needs to clear the liver so when injected i.p for example if a substance has a large molecule size and doesnt use an intestinal transporter, usually that would be well rejected before getting to the liver. but with this route it goes through. some enzymes in common with similar activity level between intestine and liver. liver is generally more active but intestinal metabolism can be substantial. intestine also has p-glycoprotein transporter which rejects some things back into the gut space some substances might be pretty much the same where they dont get metabolised by enzymes much and have high transport utilizing transporters around (or small enough to get through tight junction barrier very well). sometimes there are big differences example, cmax was 4x higher with Deramciclane as i.p vs orally and 6x higher AUC https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7412579/ The absolute bioavailability of deramciclane in rats was 3.42% after oral and 18.49% after intraperitoneal administration Lenalidomide 4x higher i.p vs orally then Tariquidar its close between i.p and oral for something like doxycycline it wouldnt matter because oral bioavailability is so high basically its better to find oral dosing (theres other problems too like conjugation differences but) when looking to try get an idea of dosing between animals and humans
  • Discussion of individual human or animal cases. "There is no foreseeable limit to the qualitative development of the economy." - Ray Peat, Generative Energy

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    @sunsunsun Great find sushi I think it was reffering to this study It used a HED of 70mg a week for an 80kg man, which is a very low dose. They measured protein synthesis by measuring the concentration of RNA in muscle, which usually increases during AAS administration, but fell during trenbolone treatment. The tren rats had more nitrogen per kg of bodyweights and normal organ sizes (actually less as a percent of bodyweight) it's interesting. to see its' unique effects
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG2ocgQKzuQ
  • Conversations about Bioenergetic Forum

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    @ThinPicking , Definitely. But I would like to talk with the administrator.
  • Off-topic or unclear threads sent here. But dig around and you might find some gems.

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    @maplesyrupbro Good to know. Did you use idealab's DHT? Tell us the important details. @bio3nergetic @gg12 I'm not cut, and this is not purely about size. The increase in size would come from better vascularization, also increasing sensitivity which I lack.