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@haidut I am wondering if it is really inflammation that is causing mitochondrial dysfunction and not the other way around. I have a large store of bacteria that I keep having to kill and each time there is a kill plenty of endotoxins are released and they are a major source of inflammation. And it suppresses mitochondrial activity to the point that even the conversion of cholesterol to pregnenolone and downstream prosuction of hormones and steroids are very much affected. To such effect that taking hormones like thyroid and pregnenolone and progesterone can hardly make a dent. I had to inhibit the nfkb inflammatory response using turmeric and black pepper in order to see my cholesterol level go down and my hormonal production go up. But it is hard to keep endotoxins low when there is a large colony of pathogenic microbes and in my case it is feom periodontal infection having translocated to my vascular and lymphatic system where it get more embedded over time especially as it gets protected by biofilms. One way I see out of this conundrum of killing pathogens by relying on our endogenous ROS from our own innate immune system and from use of pharma antibiotics or herbal antibacterials,, which all end up producing endotoxins; is to engage antibacterial peptides such as LL-37 in neutrophils and macrophages - to kill pathogens with the benefit of not leaving behind endotoxins that both inflame and cause oxidative stress. More sunshine to produce high levels of Vitamin D (50-80 ng/dl) together with plenty of butyric acid in the gut gives the body a high endogenous supply of LL-37 to achieve effective antimicrobial activity without endotoxic side effects.

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