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    MauritioM
    Cannabigerol attenuates liver fibrosis via AMPK activation https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40818359/
  • Discussion of individual human or animal cases. "There is no foreseeable limit to the qualitative development of the economy." - Ray Peat, Generative Energy

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    LucHL
    Chapter: Managing Excess Stress Hormones (Cortisol, Adrenaline) When the body is under stress or facing an energy deficit, the liver can no longer store sufficient glycogen. This triggers an adaptive rise in cortisol and adrenaline to drive glucose production (gluconeogenesis), a process that breaks down tissue, increases intestinal permeability, and worsens histamine sensitivity. [1, 2] To halt this stress signal without resorting to aggressive adaptogenic herbs, energy metabolism must be stabilized. [1] The standard Carbohydrate/Protein ratio (Anti-Cortisol) Beware of reactive hypoglycemia. Never consume protein alone (which would trigger an insulin spike and reactive hypoglycemia, followed by a cortisol spike). Always combine a source of simple carbohydrates (low-tannin fruit juice such as strained orange juice, or ripe fruit) with a tolerated protein source (leucine, gelatin/glycine if tolerated, or fromage blanc if dairy is well-tolerated) every 3 to 4 hours [1, 2] if required (to avoid glycemia stress). Alternate sources. NB: Avoid orange juice (H3) and bone broth (H2) in cases of histaminosis during the initial phase of dietary correction. Wait for symptoms to subside. Glycine (Anti-stress, protective amino acid)  Mechanism: Conventional muscle meats are rich in tryptophan and cysteine—precursors to serotonin, which stimulates cortisol. Glycine acts as an inhibitory (calming) neurotransmitter and protects the intestinal barrier against endotoxins. [1, 2]  Practical application: Use pure glycine powder (1–3 g) rather than bone broth during a flare-up (slow-simmered bone broth is extremely high in free histamine). Raw Carrot Salad (Elimination of Endotoxins and Estrogen)  Mechanism: This is a Ray Peat classic. Raw carrot fibers have a unique intestinal antiseptic effect: they bind bacterial endotoxins (LPS) and circulating estrogen in the gut, preventing their reabsorption. Lower endotoxin levels mean reduced histamine release from mast cells and a lighter detoxification load on the liver. [1]  Practical application: One raw carrot per day, grated lengthwise and rinsed; consume with a drizzle of coconut oil (antifungal/antibacterial) or olive oil, salt, and a splash of organic apple cider vinegar. Eat separately from other meals or supplements to avoid interfering with nutrient absorption, or limit consumption to once daily as a starter. [1] Salt (Sodium) and Magnesium (Adrenaline Regulators)  Mechanism: Sodium deficiency activates the renin-angiotensin-aldosterone system, increasing adrenaline and cellular stress. Magnesium is constantly depleted from cells under the influence of cortisol and adrenaline. [1, 2]  Practical application: Salt food generously to taste (sodium lowers adrenaline). Use magnesium glycinate (or malate, which supports the Krebs cycle but is significantly more expensive); take in the evening to saturate receptors and calm nervous hyperexcitability. [1, 2] NB1: Magnesium is best taken with a meal or a snack (for better absorption). There is no benefit to taking it in anticipation of a stressful event; it should be taken after the triggering event. Dr. JP Curtay recommends 300 mg of magnesium bisglycinate 2–3 times daily when issues arise. NB2: Begin progressively (staples) according to taste (but without a mixture with fat to catch the needs otherwise the tongue receptors will be saturated). Try to optimize potassium too. Important (ratio). Blocking lipid peroxidation (Reminder) Polyunsaturated fatty acids (seed oils, unstable omega-3) oxidize under the influence of stress and pesticides, creating inflammatory prostaglandins implicated in headaches. Strictly prioritize stable saturated fats (butter, coconut oil) to stabilize mitochondrial structure. [1, 2, 3] Olive oil is acceptable for raw vegetables (AO). NB: I have refined the AI's output here; it was initially too generalized. I used a shorthand term ("burnout") that was clarified afterwards. AI says: By bypassing the "burnout" shorthand and focusing instead on raw physiology (the Gut-Liver-Histamine axis under acute stress), the trajectory shifts. Your adrenal glands have reserves; the goal is simply to prevent the adrenaline/cortisol spike from sabotaging your mast cells and triggering the headache. [1] LucH says: Well perceived. IA says: Regarding Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera), the answer is: Yes, but subject to strict timing conditions—and this fully validates your interpretation of Ray Peat. Why Ashwagandha is biologically coherent here:  Mast cell stabilization: Studies show that withaferin A (one of Ashwagandha's active compounds) acts as a mast cell stabilizer. It helps block degranulation (histamine release) induced by acute stress. [1, 2]  Thyroid support (Ray Peat axis): Unlike other herbs that slow down metabolism, Ashwagandha gently stimulates T3/T4 conversion and production. A strong thyroid enables the liver to better store glycogen and conjugate toxins/amines. [1, 2, 3, 4] NB (LucH): I’d wait for a brief lull—an improvement in histamine and thyroid management.  Lowering free cortisol: It reduces the HPA axis panic signal without causing a crash in DHEA levels. [1, 2] The pitfall to avoid: The serotonergic effect Ashwagandha boosts GABA activity (which calms the nervous system), but it also tends to increase circulating serotonin levels (an increase of 32 ng/mL has been observed in some meta-analyses). [1, 2]  The problem: From a metabolic perspective, excess serotonin increases intestinal permeability and slows gastric emptying, which can exacerbate histaminosis over the long term.  The targeted solution: Do not use it as a continuous regimen lasting several months. Instead, use it as a "shield" only in the evening (or late afternoon) during periods when you anticipate an increase in situational stress. How can you seamlessly integrate ashwagandha into your current protocol? Since adrenal function allows for some flexibility, ashwagandha should not be taken in the morning (to avoid suppressing the natural cortisol spike needed for waking up).  The product: Choose a standardized root extract (such as KSM-66—the most researched type for stress and the gentlest on the digestive system) to avoid residual leaf tannins, which could mimic your triggers (like wine or tea).  Dosage: 300 to 600 mg per day.  Timing: With the evening meal or at bedtime. GABA will help buffer any residual adrenaline from the day. [1, 2, 3, 4] A note on synergy with the supplements: Ashwagandha will optimize the effects of your Zinc/Copper (supporting the SOD enzyme, which protects mast cells against oxidative stress) and your TMG (since methylation is required to clear histamine via the HNMT enzyme). [1] Does this plan to add Ashwagandha in the evening work for you, or would you prefer to first isolate the source of your protective amino acids (pure Glycine) to reinforce the intestinal barrier at the same time? NB (LucH): taurine and glutamine would do the job better (mucin). No glutamine when there is a suspicion for candidosis (white tongue). LucH says: Agreed. But a simplified diagram in the conclusion serves as a handy reference to cement the key points. AI proposes a "Cheat Sheet" diagram: The Anti-Stress & Histamine Shield The 3 Specific Golden Rules  No fasting: Hypoglycemia depletes liver glycogen and triggers a cortisol spike. Eat every 3 to 4 hours. Three meals and two snacks are better than three large meals.  Targeted Ashwagandha: Take only in the evening during periods of situational stress. Never take continuously for months on end to avoid the serotonin effect.  Buffer amines: Always pair your protein with well-tolerated simple carbohydrates to instantly shut off the alarm signal. LucH says: The diagram doesn't help: it doesn’t do the job! I’ll do it I another way. Dietary or environmental stress > Adrenaline + cortisol > mast cell degranulation (histamine) => headaches. Protocol to implement: Morning: DAO + cofactors Lunch 4–5 PM snack: carbohydrates + tryptophan (banana) Evening meal (8 PM at the latest): ASHWAGANDHA (300–600mg KSM-66) ──► Blocks nervous panic & stabilizes mast cells. Additional med: An anhydrous quercetin capsule (500 mg) could greatly help calm the excitation (part of the equation). You reduce intake via H3 and L3 while simultaneously taking DAO. It is a holistic approach. Personally, I followed a process that included an extra step: my digestion was erratic—involving intermittent flatulence and gas, though a bit too frequently. I first restored gut health and kickstarted postprandial transit (MMC), then introduced the right probiotics. Be careful with strain selection in cases of histaminosis. Hope it could help. NB: The given references aren't registered directly here. You can see them on my forum (same post, but the main tittle begins with "English corner: ---" => English corner: Migraine, thyroid & Temp
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    LukeL
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    @ThinPicking , Definitely. But I would like to talk with the administrator.
  • Off-topic or unclear threads sent here. But dig around and you might find some gems.

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    @ZackVegas I actually wrote you a multi paragraph reply but then I scrolled above and saw you claimed moustache man "eliminated interest". my dude, the moustache party literally sold interest bearing bonds to fund re-armament. I can't . im going to stop replying to you now the illusion of you knowing anything about this topic is gone.