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  • Place to discuss the work of Ray Peat, Otto Warburg, Albert Szent-Györgyi and the interdependence of energy and structure

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    secondkelpingS
    secondkelping said: @alfredoolivas thanks for the info. I've been out of the depths of bioenergetic world for a while (still peating though), so it's going to take me some time to read through and understand your links. I'm a big fan of fireinabottle though. I think the increased energy expenditure is helping me since I am overweight still. I'd like to be able to do higher protein though if possible. Also, through looking at other posts, this could also be related to methionine and cysteine restriction as well. It's difficult for me though to consume more gelatin or gelatinous meats. I also don't know the amount that I would need to add in yet to balance out the negative effects. I usually take 1 scoop of collagen protein a day, but I think that's too little. Anyways, I could also just keep protein low, but if there was a way to do higher and feel good, I'd like to know it. Read this: How Much Protein Do You Need? It's good. I'm black, so I was looking into West African diets recently anyways because I suspected that they were historically lower in fats and proteins, and that their macros may make me feel better after doing the honey diet. I went into trad weightloss (calorie restriction and exercise) afterwards though and so lost track of that. He references a study on that while also showing with other studies that nitrogen balance can be achieved on a relatively low diet of 44~ grams of protein. I think I'll try keeping protein low and see what happens (between 40g-50g). My brain just feels so much better on low protein that it's difficult to describe. I was thinking that the issue may also be b vitamins for me. My gut has improved but not completely, so I was thinking that I may not be properly absorbing b vitamins. I could be doing all of this right but just need lower protein in general. It's still hard doing a 2:3 protein:gelatin protein diet though. He suggested about 3 eggs (6-7 grams of protein) w/ 30g gelatin, which would be about 20:30. Trying to get that in is difficult...
  • Discussion of individual human or animal cases. "There is no foreseeable limit to the qualitative development of the economy." - Ray Peat, Generative Energy

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    Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor, and bromocriptine is a vasodilator. The positive effects of nicotine is pretty established here. It Lowers all the stress hormones. I’ve experienced it’s vasoconstriction effects as well, and it led me to stop. My nose gets cold to the touch and to inhale thru. The impact of that after 20 years is definitely not worth it. For this reason, Ray said nicotine would cause premature wrinkles, and should be limited to use by old people. Bromocriptine is a very strong vasodilator, and many people get closed nostrils from the loosened veins in the peripheral tissues — I get it pretty terribly. I took a whole bromocriptine tablet, which clogs my nose for over a day every time, then smoked a cig, and my nose was maybe 20% closed the following morning. The next day, I took a bromo tablet after eating dinner, and smoked a whole cigar about 20 minutes later. Up front, I started getting a cold nose. After about an hour, my nose was warm. My nose remained warm the rest of the night and this morning, with almost no discernible swelling in my nostrils. I should definitely take bromo on an empty stomach. biobabes we gonna be forever young!
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    @gg12 even if people are eating a lot they can be nutrient deficient.
  • Conversations about Bioenergetic Forum

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    @ThinPicking , Definitely. But I would like to talk with the administrator.
  • Off-topic or unclear threads sent here. But dig around and you might find some gems.

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    sold .