@alfredoolivas do you have any theories about what's happening with excess mag and pot, and what's possible with their reduction? I like Ray's kinda-theory that something being high or low somewhere in a traditional diet isn't a priori good, but that other nutrients or hormones compensate for their deficiency so it's effect is neutralized. the fat lady hasn't sung yet of course, so you may be on to something and I look forward to hearing

@wester130 probably for many yeah

@Verdad update?

Had to quit, after each smoke, my digestion got horribly worse… I came across this, and it makes sense: https://youtu.be/zZCgpw6_sRA?si=qcNsO9j7S8P_Aj-r Presently, I believe it’s the classic case of everything is bad when your health is outta wack. May try again when I think I’m doing good on every front.

Did 1.5mg earlier today and all that happened was my stomach hurting (not quite nausea, but close) and not feeling very hungry. For some reason, the libido effects are minimal to none, and I don't know why.

@engineer I took some androsterone a while back but like 1-2 drops every few days. I took pansterone daily for 1 month as well.

Over the past week I have worked my way up to 1mg a day. The effects maybe have increased, but the reason it might not have done so more is because of low estrogen from exemestane. I know this could be the case because I heavily sweat during naps now, one classic symptom of low E2.

@jamezb46 what makes ginger better for this?

@TexugoDoMel I haven't used it for a week now because I didn't like my moles darkening. So, I still have 19 more vials left sitting around and I have no clue what to do with them. Looks like maybe PT141 would still have the pro metabolic effects without the darkening but the MCR affinities are a little different. Maybe if I want a tan I could experiment with gene therapy to change the natural skin color? I don't know what Ray Peat thought about gene modification though.

my eyesight goes from -4.0 glasses to perfect 20/20 can see eagles in the distance and individual branches of trees a mile away and license plate numbers and letters when the sun is out and I have good posture

@sphagnum Orally with water. https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Singulares-Shell-Powder-Extra-Fine/dp/B07TD46XG5?th=1

i am now re thinking this idea after finding another patent using losartan for hair US20160081901A1 - "Compositions and methods for hair growth"

@PissBoy while you get your lisuride, also get some pansterone and kuinone because they are incredible products too hope you see great results!

@DKJoeAgain now that I think about it, it has been more like 2 months, but even so I tend to respond quickly to supplements. Usually, the way I've done it is I add on something, wait several days to feel what the effects are, and assess. The effects seem to plateau after that so that's how I've been able to assess them. For the pyrucet, the carb burn effect isn't really something you feel but rather something you observe. So although I might have felt a little warmer in the midsection (due to faster digestion of things like orange juice) the end result is that I feel hungrier and hypoglycemic much earlier than if I had not taken the pyrucet. It was shocking how much earlier it was at first but now I've gotten used to it. And you can tell the carbs were burned, because you feel no more bloating than without the pyrucet with the same amount of carbs.

@user1 Feel like my muscles are "poisoned" or "heavy," especially during the second set or compound lifts. Circadian rhythm delay. Extreme grogginess in the mornings. Milk being the only thing I changed that could have contributed to these

@jamezb46 cool. I've been reapplying it at least twice a day... it warms me up

I would experiment with all types of stuff mildronate is one hell of a thing its winter so I prefer meat and potatoes summer more fruit

Zinc - lowered my Estradiol too much Androsterone - gave me limp d*ck. Too bad, because otherwise it would give me strong masculinizing effect - thicker beard, deeper voice, mental calm Word of caution - if you are not fat/overweight and are actually on the slim side, taking too much Estrogen lowering substance will backfire. These substances are useful for high aromatizers.

@NokiaDrift This only applies to 17-a alkylated steroids or 7-a alkylated steroids (or really any synthetic androgen that is created in such a way that there is steric hinderance to its metabolism). Oral androgens are not harmful in general. For example, in the 2000's there were many prohormones like 4-AD and 1-AD which were not methylated and were not liver toxic. Oral test itself is not liver toxic and has in fact been used in combination with thiamine to help heal the liver. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14139786/