if its too acidic i add 1 gram of baking soda and some sugar (food grade aluminium free), the bicarb reacts with the acid to clear some (dont need a lot) and gives a little salt to balance the water, but yeh probably not the best if a sweet brand is available or vs eating ripe oranges

@yeyo12 I used to do mostly forearms, but now i do delts/upper arm. 1ml, half and half on each shoulder and it works well. Started again to do another blood test but on DHT this time.

@the-MOUSE what ur t levels? frequency ejac/morning wood. ability put on muscle

I’d vote stop all your supplements except D&K. Keep B complex if you’re sure it’s well formulated and no bad “additional ingredients. And cut the coconut oil. Not cuz it’s bad but you have coconut oil on your body you’re trying to loose.
1000mg of Mag is displacing calcium and you aren’t eating that much Cal.
Good luck that’s my two cents.
And walk more!

@Razvan said in Pregnenolone doesn't disolve in coconut oil:

@Insomniac pregnenolone needs to be used with a lecithin carriera to work for topical use.

thanks. Never heard about lecithin.

@Vasi1311 said in HEIGHTMAXXING - LOG:

I am 1,80cm by the way

Queen.

Yes, improving your health is the starting step to gaining height. I'll look into the Feldenkrais method later. Thanks.

@sneedful

https://longestlevers.com/fat-loss/honey-diet.html

@GreekDemiGod said in Personal Log - Digestion, energy, vitality:

@yerrag said in Personal Log - Digestion, energy, vitality:

OP, I admire your effort, but if may opine, I would like to suggest a different approach. Reading Ray and picking his brain from reading his writings is a lot better than picking the brains of our collective here, most of whom are just as likely to give his own opinion than facts, and most are just as unversed in his writings and ideas. I'm sorry if I assume as much, but it may help all of us if we really make a serious effort to read his newsletters and books with the aim to understand and internalize them. In addition to using some good resources from members here.

Thanks for the answer. That's a good point.
Where would you suggest to start? I barely even read his articles. I mostly read the forum, and listened to GE streams or other interviews or radio shows with Ray.

It is easy to be overwhelmed as there is no syllabus or course design that we are used to in universities. Since our ailments cannot wait for each of us to attain a mastery of Peatology, it is far easier though hardly ideal to use our own individual health and sickness to guide our search for what material to read. Otherwise, it's hard to get enough motivated to read each newsletter as if you were pursuing a PhD.

Use a keyword search of his writings, as I described earlier to bring up his writings on that subject, and focus on that subject. Since the body is interrelated, it would still be hard to be lost, as even if you tried to specialize on an area, you can't help but avoid being drawn into the larger web of relationships that make the body work coherently and cohesively.

It would be a matter of time and a matter of course that you will find yourself connecting the dots, and form conceptual relationships, particularly on causes and effects, whiçh is the backbone of problem solving.

@NokiaDrift I'm so happy to see you're trying the glucose protocol. I was going to suggest it but then finished reading your post and saw that you're already giving it a go. I'm in my 4th month, but being a tad older than you I expect it could take me quite a bit longer to be 100%. You have overcome so much and are on the right track! Carry on and do keep everyone posted!

Any updates?

Also, can someone chime in regarding oral test metabolizing in the liver? i remember when i wanted to get into AAS about 8 years ago reading that those oral test supplements are toxic to the liver when metabolized, but as far as i remember those werent real test but rather test derivates. Does this apply to real test as well?

@Hearthfire @yeehawyinzer Its also beneficial for fertility and gum health

@Jakeandpace same, niacinamide and thiamine are kings.

@Ecstatic_Hamster said in Ideas for getting more CO2 into your everyday routine:

Control pause gets worse within 10 or 15 minutes of eating anything, especially protein, and especially foods you aren’t tolerant of. The CP diminishes for 3 or so hours. I have heard it has to do with ions soaked up in the process of creating hydrochloric acid for stomach digestive stage, and these ions are then picked back up into the body. I doubt this is the best explanation but it kind of explains why meat lowers CP more than eating fruit does.

It does not explain the food intolerance part.

As far as the Ray Peat diet (whatever that is) resulting in weight gain I find that when I limited sugar consumption and consumed more starch, I was able to easily lose body fat. That is the way most of the thin world eats.

Thanks @Ecstatic_Hamster i missed this earlier! Iv always noticed an initial lessening of symptoms immediately after eating i think from the pleasure of it, then followed by a worsening of symptoms about 30mins later as energy is taken for digestion. Interesting to see how this patches in with cp!

In terms of exercise I am now focussing on more playful forms. That being sports. Most sports involve some form of explosive activity rather than endurance.

I’m playing soccer/football and do Muay Thai, although they are quite exhaustive sometimes my appetite has skyrocketed and I feel a lot better not carrying around so much extra musculature in the upper body.

Sports are also good because they integrate you in your local environment. Instead of the deranged sort of Sigma gym goer loner archetype that gets so heavily promoted, performing in a local arena builds bonds and creates a greater sense of purpose.

Brute de force speaks on this, we must have an outlet to perform that earns you accolades. I would consider sport an important and easy outlet that most people have access to. You can exert yourself physically and stylistically as a form of expression.

@samson Thats good. Im the same way. I think 3 or more a day that require little or no wiping is optimal

I realize this is an old thread by an inactive poster but a few comments for those who may be considering something similar.

1lb of muscle meat, 2 cups of slow digesting milk, rice, questionable vegetable fibers and starch? That's an aweful lot of food and mixing for most folks going to bed just a few hours later, all while trying to lose mid-section fat. Maybe the original poster keeps unique hours but I can't think of many folks who would need that much and that sort of energy at that time.

@Sugarnotsnow really never worked for me

maybe i could try it mixed with dermarolling/stamping

that would be more interesting

@jamezb46 @yerrag

Wow, interesting. Thanks a lot guys! I may push thru it topically for a week and see how it goes.

Have you had additional gout flareups since this time, or do you believe you've found a permanent solution for them?

I never suffered gout until I began Peating, but I suspect it's because I didn't consistently incorporate the fiber sources Ray recommends (raw carrots/boiled mushrooms/bamboo shoots) into my diet. This may have left me unable to properly flush endotoxins, and resulted in my gout flare up.

Anyway, I'm in the middle of my second flare up now, and committed to incorporating more fiber in my diet going forward, but I'm still looking for help dealing with the immediate debilitating pain.