@DavidPS said in Protocol for improved facial collagen synthesis:

The general rule is that the longer the wavelength the deeper the light penetrates into the skin. However, when the light wavelength lengthens to the infrared (IR) region, the penetration depth of the light decreases because water in the tissue absorbs IR light.

This is true but doesn’t take account wavelengths affinity for cytochrome C oxidise. Wavelengths around the 660nm value (red light) have the greatest affinity for cytochrome C oxidase acoding to Peat. I think their affinity for cytochrome C oxidase makes up for their lack of pentetration.

All wavelengths of light even FAR infrared light probably are absorbed by cytochrome C oxidase despite some far wavelengths being heavily absorbed by water.

For example, a study showed that a single laser of far infrared radiation applied to the base of the foot (which is largely dead skins ?) for a short period of time was able to substantially decrease blood sugar and cortisol. That can’t happen if it isn’t absorbed by cytochrome c oxidase.

@Cezar red light but also infrared light - Infrared light / infrared radiation are wave lengths of light that aren’t visible to the eye. They are heavily emitted by heat lamps / chicken lamps.

Infrared light has similar benefits to red light, including infrared including stimulating collagen synthesis , and it has the benefit of being less invasive than red light + a lot cheaper.

Effects of Infrared Radiation on Skin Photo-Aging and Pigmentation

I have two 150W heat lamps directed towards my face on either sides of my desk, and I just work infront of them. Despite the high wattage, most of the light produced is invisible/infrared and it’s like having normal two desk lights pointed at my face, it’s not very bright at all . It allows me to get at least an hour of direct facial exposure to ALOT of infrared radiation + a bit of red light. I also put one on the side of the bed and nap whilst laying on the side of my body, with my face facing the infrared light as I sleep. It’s maybe 10cm away from my face.

I’ve noticed a big reduction in eye bags, despite sleeping less due to being so busy. I haven’t kept an eye on facial collagen but I think it would really help based off of my experience

@Luke let us know how it is, Deus Med are an underground steroid lab, but they are under a registered company in India, I think they are some sort of semi-legal pharmaceutical company.

There exists plenty of lab tests for their thyroid products, so I think they could be a good option for thyroid medication.

@AinmBeo These "labs" don't tend sell on amazon, even though some do.

They aren't really "labs", they are just resellers of "research" wink, wink chemicals

@random that’s why I said “apparently”. Thats just what I heard from whoever was on his discord. I assume his account being deleted (or banned, but it doesn’t say banned?) was related this.

@random I got a message from him on discord asking who I was. We had an extensive chat history. After talking with the user on his account, it turns out it was his sister and “sushi” aka Sebastian, had passed away in the recent tradegy in Thailand.

@ThinPicking he was a passport bro. I mean that with respect. rest in peace

@ThinPicking apparently he died in the Thailand earthquakes. Not kidding, I have him on discord.

@CrumblingCookie the BHB is a dietary supplement not a spray

@jamezb46 do you think there will be another Patrick Arnold ? Seems like since the millennia, there has been no interest in discovering new steroid hormones…. perhaps this is justified. We have all the tools necessary, introducing a patented steroid hormone will probably due more harm than good. Allopregnenolone and Fluasterone are the only recent steroids under investigation that come to mind.

Any further research into steroid hormones clinical application is put into non steroidal drugs that selectively activate or block receptors in different tissues or inhibit enzymes such as 11b HSD.

Is there perhaps a current chemist researching and releasing new SARMs? That would be cool.