@sunsunsun XD

@hawk1 Yeah I don't think you understood the article, if you are looking at these sources.

@uncover do I correctly remember that you had logged your aspirin+workout experiences, on the rpf?

@Thyrotic Hey, did you survive?

As a counterpoint, I think I've crashed my estrogen with both androsterone and 11kDHT in the past but never noticed anything with my joints because I was taking boron at the same time.

@thezynmaster have experience with tbol from PPL, Tbol is like a milder form of dbol or anadrol. You need testosterone or else you will crash hormones after a few weeks / post cycle. Just run 250mg total test pinned twice a week with tbol and you will get strong as fuck if you lift right. Ive been buying from PPL since 2017 theyre good to go. Not a shill just a dude whos been doing steroids for a long time lol. For the past 6ish months ive been taking tiny doses of anadrol (from PPL) as well, Ive put on 85-100 lbs in all my lifts but also been very consistent and on 250-300mg cypionate a week. You will for sure have a boost in strength and endurance when lifting but the drugs are only as important as how you workout, what you eat, and how well you sleep. for reference from personal experience with the orals in terms of strength/side effects. Superdrol>Anadrol/Dbol>Tbol I have taken all and Tbol is was milder than Sdrol and the anadrol/dbol. I also was taking milk thistle or TUDCA daily to help with liver strain.

@engineer I can't use the entire weight because I somehow lost some of the sand bags (probably while I was moving, a former colleague once said "Moving three times is like being burglarized once"). The max weight is about 20kg now, That weight is good for exercises like pushups or body rows where you make quick progress and can carry more added weight. The vest I have is also pretty tight, so it doesn't bother me much with pushups. It's also good for weighted jump squats. I don't have a pullup bar right now, but I don't think I could ever reach multiple pullups with 20/25kg added weight. I could hardly do eight pullups without vest even when I was still young and in good shape. It's definitely a great addition.

I started going to the gym again in early February (after avoiding it for 6 years) and simultaneously started using Tyronene for the first time. I do a drop of Tyronene before I do a gym session, and usually a drop afterwards too, both orally. I was hesitant to use Tyronene at first because of the reviews from people that say it works nowhere near as well as Cynomel and is a waste of money, but I've found it to be very effective for an easy boost.

@thyroidchor27 I always thought that masa harina is basically the only grain that isn't high in phosphorous in relation to calcium because of the calcium hydroxide it's treated with?

@hawk1 I have similar concerns to you regarding suppression. So, despite that, I have also gone the nuclear route with 500mg a week of T isocaproate. Surprisingly, I haven't detected much suppression if any because vitamin E, pregnenolone/DHEA, and progesterone all work to oppose estrogen and prolactin which are the main underlying mechanisms behind endogenous shutdown. This is all because regular T aromatizes, unlike 11KT, which shockingly does NOT! So even if you're not already doing other Peaty things you are already in a low risk position.

@LunaticRed what @alfredoolivas said along with inhibiting cortisol, positive androgenic effects like increased strength, bone growth, anti-anxiolytic, controls blood sugar, controls inflammation from endotoxin. The list goes on. In reality, it is the TRUE male hormone.

@sunsunsun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f25pFhuAaY

@lobotomize-me I got nothing out of using the IC pad but some people I trust told me they got results. Not gona lie I didn't spend too much time using it. I should give it a more honest try.

For anyone interested, here's an interview with Patrick Arnold "the man behind DMAA, The Clear, and many other drugs that permanently changed the world of body building and competitive sports." https://youtube.com/watch?v=w6g18q-ksWk

@clueless This thread from RPF came to mind, with regard to post workout strategy. https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/post-exercise-muscle-glycogen-synthesis.8181/#post-104871

i'll give you an actual answer... one you might know already. to get jacked requiring the minimal amount of physical stress would be arthur jones / mike mentzer inspired training. hypertrophy itself is a stress response so there's no perfect answer. however, the benefits of being muscular (within reason of course) greatly pay off for the temporarily induced stress. remember, peat was not completely against stress, especially voluntary stress that gives us rewards.

@raytreats said in Intense exertion headache when lifting caused by muscle tightness in shoulders / neck?: @Jennifer she's small and doesn't quite have the strength needed to do that - but i agree it's helpful. I used to have a MuscleHook which is a really great product for getting those trigger points in your shoulders yourself. I have to see if I still have it somewhere. I understand. I’m also small, and not the strongest. I let my body weight do most of the work when I give massages. Not sure if this would work for her, too, but I have the person lie on their stomach, and while straddling them, I take the lower part of my palm and press into the knot, while moving upward using my body weight for pressure. The forward movement feels really good after the abuse of pushing on the knot lol, however, I have found just pressing into the knot with my weight and then letting up to be effective.

@16characterstwas right. I remember that. Thanks