@jamezb46 said in pre workout / intra / post workout: @BioEclectic Why do you think lactic acid produces DOMS? From what i had read at the old RPF forum, though i always hold open the possibility that i have either misconstrued or misremembered whatever i had read. Not sure if this applies but I do know it noticeably reduces work or shoe related foot soreness. Mag sulfate and Mag bicarbonate.

@lobotomize-me I got nothing out of using the IC pad but some people I trust told me they got results. Not gona lie I didn't spend too much time using it. I should give it a more honest try.

For anyone interested, here's an interview with Patrick Arnold "the man behind DMAA, The Clear, and many other drugs that permanently changed the world of body building and competitive sports." https://youtube.com/watch?v=w6g18q-ksWk

@clueless This thread from RPF came to mind, with regard to post workout strategy. https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/post-exercise-muscle-glycogen-synthesis.8181/#post-104871

i'll give you an actual answer... one you might know already. to get jacked requiring the minimal amount of physical stress would be arthur jones / mike mentzer inspired training. hypertrophy itself is a stress response so there's no perfect answer. however, the benefits of being muscular (within reason of course) greatly pay off for the temporarily induced stress. remember, peat was not completely against stress, especially voluntary stress that gives us rewards.

@serotoninskeptic nah i wont die bro trust

@raytreats said in Intense exertion headache when lifting caused by muscle tightness in shoulders / neck?: @Jennifer she's small and doesn't quite have the strength needed to do that - but i agree it's helpful. I used to have a MuscleHook which is a really great product for getting those trigger points in your shoulders yourself. I have to see if I still have it somewhere. I understand. I’m also small, and not the strongest. I let my body weight do most of the work when I give massages. Not sure if this would work for her, too, but I have the person lie on their stomach, and while straddling them, I take the lower part of my palm and press into the knot, while moving upward using my body weight for pressure. The forward movement feels really good after the abuse of pushing on the knot lol, however, I have found just pressing into the knot with my weight and then letting up to be effective.

@16characterstwas right. I remember that. Thanks

@tubert makes sense! thx

@BroJonas @raytreats yup this guy is great. keeping a stack and doing incline presses and chest dips is the way to get big pecks fs.

@cs3000 According to the first link you posted, forskolin dephosphorylates the androgen receptor, not phosphorylates. There is an increase in the 110 kDa AR isoform and a decrease in the 112 kDa AR isoform. The latter is the phosphorylated isoform. Specifically, it was with the phosphorylation of serines 641 and 653 that Forskolin interfered. When the dephosphorylated AR was analyzed in terms of its transcriptional activity, it was observed that the regulation of two genes: PSA and the beta 1-subunit of Na,K-ATPase was inhibited relative to control. They also claim that the 110kDa AR had only 40% of the maximum ligand binding of the 112kDa phosphorylated AR. I suppose that means that its ligands (androgens) did not bind as effectively to the dephosphorylated AR, thus limiting the amount of gene transcription that androgens could cause relative to interaction with the 112kDa isoform. Now, that all looks quite troubling, except that the AR has a half life of only a few hours. So, if you take Forskolin, it seems consistent with what we know that the AR that your cells synthesize within a few hours of peak serum levels will be the 110kDa isoform, but that doesn't mean that the next AR that is synthesized will not be the 112kDa isoform. Increased cAMP also turns on genes associated with ramping up steroid hormone production, so the net outcome is ... who knows That's why we need people to actually try it and report back. You will never be able to figure out the net effect on paper alone.

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I would rather listen to Paul Carter (lifteunbang on IG) than Mentzer advice, if you want to maximise muscle gains. He promotes high intensity, low/ optimal volume, who seems to get it right. High volume is wrong, but Mentzer was wrong too. The truth is somewhere in the middle. 4-6 hard sets per muscle group, to failure, per workout, twice weekly frequently will maximise muscle gains. That’s like doing 2 exercises per muscle group, in a workout. On a chest and shoulders workout, you’re doing 4-6 sets for chest and 4-6 sets for shoulder. A total of 8-12 sets total for a workout. That’s perfectly sustainable. 4 workouts per week is optimal, maybe 5 if you really love training. 3 if you’re doing for general health and maintenance.

@Pooooop That would be IGF-1, which is anabolic, and not GH. Insulin increases IGF-1 levels and fasting increases GH levels

@Uncover yeah thats gotta be other labs trying to shit on them. i have purchased and personally ingested/injected their products for years and its all legit. just order for yourself and you'll see. the orals like dbol and adrol and superdrol give you indigestion like they should given that they are oral steroids lol. inject the testosterone and you will get big, trust me lmao.