@sushi_is_cringe I was talking about cosmetic effects, not about DHT effect's on health issues. All those studies cover the latter

@Crypt-Keeper Well whether estrogen is good or not, is up for debate, but for certain, estrogen is responsible for the fat loss properties of androgens. Everyone, not just people on this forum say, "estrogen is the fattening, pregnancy hormone!". Well show me a study of an aromatase inhibitor reversing obesity? I will wait!

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0031938479900453

"Treatment of castrated male rats with low doses of testosterone propionate (TP; 0.2 mg/day) increases food intake and body weight gain, but long-term treatment with a higher dose of TP (1 mg/day) reduces body weight gain and carcass fat content. Concurrent treatment with androsta-1,4,6-triene-3, 17-dione (ATD), which blocks the aromatization of androgens to estrogens, prevents the weight-reducing effects of high doses of TP. "

So basically this studied showed that, if you allow T to only turn into DHT instead of E + DHT, via blocking the aromatase enzyme, fat is gained.

@dht DHT is pure hype when it comes to cosmetic purposes. If DHT had any cosmetic benefit, then at least one of the thousands of studies performed on DHT, would of shown it. But I have yet to see a single study showing any cosmetic benefit of DHT. I would stop showing interest in it, it's not a golden bullet, or a well-kept secret, but rather a hype train.

The guy behind the hype is also on testosterone as well.

https://academic.oup.com/endo/article/162/6/bqab045/6155679

"Testosterone Reduces Body Fat in Male Mice by Stimulation of Physical Activity Via Extrahypothalamic ERα Signaling...Testosterone but not dihydrotestosterone decreases fat mass in obese hypogonadal male mice

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16741268/

"DHT treatment resulted in obesity, associated with reduced energy expenditure and fat oxidation. "

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1344622399800194

"In respiratory parameters, expired CO2 gas decreased significantly in the hormone-treated rats"

If you are going to reply with some anecdotal something, please don't. Not trying to be rude, but we should skip the talk and share studies instead, in order to hopefully dismiss these studies showing DHT having negative cosmetic effects, as I want DHT to have cosmetic purposes as much as the next person.

@jamezb46 Most milligram scales aren't accurate when measuring single-digit milligram weights; and even then, the size of drops varies, therefore, a mean has to be taken to calculate the average size of a drop.

And if you use the mean value to say how much a drop is then it is automatically an approximate figure. So, unfortunately, using an approximate figure is the only way to guess how much you are taking based off of drops.

@Mauritio That might be how it inhibits LH and FSH, and is anti-androgenic, because the opioid receptor inhibits GnRH secretion when activated.

Steroids such as T and DHT, increase opioid receptor expression, which could be a mechanism of how they shut down the HPG axis.

@LucH Exactly; my first thoughts were it's completely theory-based and is designed to sound factual and kind of give hope, but I couldn't describe it in words; "buzz" is the perfect word thank you

@jamezb46 Just spoke to a friend that dissolved 10% DHT in a solution that was 51% tocopherol 49% olive oil( Vitamin E "Oil" from NOW. has 510mg of alpha-tocopherol per 1ml).

I might add since he was able to dissolve 100mg in per 510mg of alpha tocopherol, it is more like a 20% solution excluding the olive oil (which DHT is not soluble in)

@Mauritio Well progesterone does the same; inhibits LH and FSH, and is therefore anti-androgenic. Unless peppermint oil is estrogenic, it may be a good proxy for progesterone.

@Mauritio Peppermint oil is 30-50% menthol, 15-30% menthone and 5-10% eucalyptol. So peppermint oil could be a vehicle to deliver these substances.

@goniath Unsustainable and ineffective in my experience. His supplement SEA, doesn't work either, even when taken in massive doses repeatedly.