A bit confused about Ray's beliefs around vitamin C. He said we get a LOT more from our diet than we realise, because of unmeasured forms like dehydroascorbic acid. He said there are thousands of milligrams of vitamin C in fruit, fruit juice, milk and meat. This is how he got to his figure of 4 grams a day when he was having a lot of grapefruit juice. If you just go off standard measurements that only reference ascorbic acid, you'd need to drink 10+ litres of grapefruit juice a day to get to 4 grams. My problem is, I've been on a high milk and fruit diet for years. But it was only when I started supplementing with additional vitamin C that my longstanding issue of blood in the nose and gums resolved (practically overnight). So it makes me think Ray may not have been entirely correct in his belief about the benefits of other forms of vitamin C?

@sunsunsun i think so yes.

@16characterstwas sorry, not sure why I missed this, idk about clonidine other than it's anti-adrenaline or smth

@mag-me chicken wings, shanks, chicarrones (refried in coconut oil)

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@wester130 well said!

Here's a good video on blueberries. This guy tested a bunch of different blueberries from German supermarkets and saw some interesting results. For example Anthocyanin content was 7 times higher in some organic brands. And many more,check it out. He also linked a study that showed People with the highest intake of anthocyanins, had a 32% lower chance of dieing and a 38% lower chance of getting heart disease. PMID: 39496659 https://youtu.be/4r0ufccM5VE?is=73ZIQaW7YdrgLvdw

@wester130 Not sure why it would be dangerous. I may be mistaking Exemestane for a different compound (anastrozole) - but it may lower IGF-1 levels which is probably not ideal if you're in the normal range already. AFAIK DHEA's main/only concern is aromatization, which Exe does a good job at keeping at bay. It would be best if you knew what your estrogen levels were prior to doing this or at least testing after you're through this to see if you're too high. Odds are you likely won't crash it with 3mg exe. You may consider the whole cycle is "pointless" if you don't have an end goal and reason in mind to take these. I don't expect an already healthy person to see a large upside to this protocol. Maybe I'm wrong and someone else knows better though

I forget where I read this, but purely by memory I recall any granulated sugar, not specifically noted as being "cane sugar", such as Walmart's store brand sugar, is made from beets, which is cheaper to produce because it is beets and not cane sugar. So, I've blindly followed this, and have looked specifically for "cane sugar" on packaging, thinking it to be better. I realize to those more in the know this may simply be stupid, and at the least ignorant, reasoning, but sometimes time and opportunity allow for just winging it on some things, and gleaning what you can when you can. Such as things like this: @cedric said: Polyphenols from sugar cane support Bifidobacteria.

@engineer i am currently doing 7 keto DHEA

"Base: Hydroalcoholic carbomer gel (DMSO-free)" They don't make it clear whether there are other ingredients. If this stuff is actually legitimate, would the DHT absorb well? Without other ingredients?

@sunsunsun yep it has a really short half life too, just from experience, my skin stays yellow and it cakes up / forms a layer on my skin that I can scrape off. So I doubt it absorbs transdermally in ethanol. You could let the ethanol evaporate and dissolve it in DMSO though

@hawk1 @hawk1 I'd be careful with stacking a bunch of bioregulators at once. If you decide to try them I'd start with one and see how you respond before adding anything else. From what I've seen epitalon and pinealon are probably the most commonly discussed for sleep and recovery, while cartalax gets mentioned a lot for joint support. The biggest challenge is that there's not a ton of high- quality human data on many of these, so it can be hard to separate real effects from placebo. If sleep and recovery are your main goals I'd focus there first before experimenting with performance related peptides.

@CrumblingCookie megadosing ghkcu is literally proven suboptimal by the studies , and ghk base and ghkcu are interchangeable. the former will just pick up cu in serum. thats all.

@alfredoolivas fuck

I live in china, I got it from taobao

@CrumblingCookie interested in hearing more about this.