there are studies showing urinary excretion increases alot with certain foods. bananas are high but not high excretion. green beans are high and high excretion.

I managed to get the device before the price hike and with a bit of a discount. Now I use it daily. Still just for a few minutes at about 3% of CO₂. Noticed better sleep (remember dreams better and consistently get about 7 hours of sleep). Inhaling CO₂ also helped clear my migraine. (It was a mild, albeit annoying, case of migraine.) Here is an interesting paper on the CO₂ for migraines: STUDIES ON HEADACHE1. Effects of Carbon Dioxide—Oxygen Mixtures Given During Preheadache Phase of the Migraine Attack 2. Further Analysis of the Pain Mechanisms in Headache From the Summary and Conclusions section: A series of patients were given a 10 per cent carbon dioxide-90 per cent oxygen mixture by face mask during the preheadache or early headache phase. This mixture abolished the preheadache phenomena and aborted the headache in most of the trials. Ten per cent carbon dioxide in air was less effective, having a shorter and more transient effect.

I tried livagen (or whichever the liver one is) can’t say I noticed anything, (like better glycogen storage or more working capacity before dipping into stores) but that said, those versed in the stuff say you won’t really “feel” it. I think before trying anymore I’d want to research some markers and do some before and after testing, (otherwise I think it’s kinda on faith). Just my experience

@PrinceTrebata If you mean which has the least contaminants, nobody knows 100% for sure. In a recent thread on the issue somebody recommended Zen Principles brand to me saying that of all the brands they queried about heavy metal contamination theirs had the least. https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/3063/gelatin/9

@wester130 because then you get the bad effects associated with cabergoline, which don't exist with bromocriptine

@wester130 I've taken it with K2 and no issues there. I usually have 3 drops of Tuinone with a small bowl of mushrooms/olive oil/vinegar/salt in between meals, used as one would use carrot salad.

I've been reading about acerola supplements. It seems quite common that they are made from unripened acerola cherries. Because at the unripened stage, it contains more vitamin C. I wonder if this is problematic? Reminds me of Ray Peat's reservations about coconut water, pointing out that it's often made using unripe coconuts because they contain more liquid. Instinct tells me consuming unripened fruit, even in dried powder form, aint so smart.

If it's a tolerable price and you can tightly control the concentrations (at least 2 things in the ingredients could easily kill you) without attracting crippling attention, it's an obvious winner. Maybe reduce the alcohol, replace it with glycerol and add some menthol or citrus extract.

@sunsunsun said: "private equity is le bad" The context necessitating the drive is somewhat le bad. @LucH said: Yes, thorne researh has been sold to P&G. Recently, mind. https://www.nutraceuticalbusinessreview.com/procter-gamble-acquires-thorne-for-3-8bn-in @LucH said: Yes, it could be true. Not a proof; not yet the beginning of ... Why? A former employee who's got problems and has been fired. We know all how it begins. https://www.supplysidesj.com/market-trends-analysis/investment-firm-to-acquire-thorne-shares-in-680-million-deal- [image: https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd2b63c60-6a84-4eab-8b74-9a1ec15f379e_474x284.png] No one can argue they're not handy with operating cost and the rest. Onwards and upwards

@sunsunsun gracias

@sunsunsun i think so yes.

@mag-me chicken wings, shanks, chicarrones (refried in coconut oil)