@MagicBold yeah wouldn’t go near anything like finasteride. This might help anyone who might have unknowingly taken it. Thread 'Finasteride causes gut inflammation, high serotonin, low dopamine; allopregnanolone may treat' https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/finasteride-causes-gut-inflammation-high-serotonin-low-dopamine-allopregnanolone-may-treat.48844/ “..All in all, finasteride is one nasty substance and there is now significant evidence to support a class-action lawsuit against pharma companies peddling this poison, considering the systemic damage that persists long-after after finasteride has been discontinued, and likely remains until the appropriate treatment (e.g. ALLO + DHT + dopamine agonist) has been administered.”

Been taking 800mcg (two drops of what Health Natura sells) a day for months, for sleep, antidepressive effects, general well-being, but I'm dropping down to 400mcg (one drop) because I've been seeing bits of blue in my stool. I don't think it's actively dangerous, but clearly my body is already well saturated at this low dose!

@oldprolteriat ideallabs has a liquid t3 that is 8mcg per drop.

@AL you are the best thanks

theres multiple posts on the reddit sub about experiencing problems by removing iodized salt from diet. i used to use pickling salt, it’s idiotic to cook and season with except in soups where it totally dissolves. i actually got some sort of stomach issue that lasted weeks before it resolved from accidently swallowing a bunch of undissolved kosher salt crystas in my coffee. i actually almost threw up a couple times drinking the super concentrated undissolved pickling salt crystals in my milk too i went back to iodized salt search the reddit sub. theres one user that says they/them are allergic to seafood and that xer got suicidal after two months off iodized salt and it instantly resolved in two minutes after taking a bit of iodized salt in the middle of the night when xer was on auto pilot as if their body knew they needed it

@Pooooop Get a 2000-3000K, as light as possible. Ideally you want the light as warm as possible and as high wattage as possible. If I remember there were plenty of 250W 2800K incandescent lights available for cheap

@sunsunsun haha

@dht I agree that keeping the steroid cascade going in important, even critical. If you HPTA is shut down, then even if you are using exogenous androgens, if you aren’t producing p5 and p4 then you aren’t getting any of the benefits that they or their metabolites turn into. My idea was to use a non-aromatizing compound like masteron or proviron and tbol or whatever else fits the bill with the idea being that your HPTA stays in tact, thus you never lose testicular steroidogenesis completely, thus you still get the youth hormones. If you were going to use progesterone for this purpose, would you try to inject it or go with oral in tocopherols? And even if you’re right about progesterone not shutting down HPTA, what do you think about the possibility that it will have anti-androgenic effects at the transcriptional level or even cause lack of libido because of how it affects the male brain?

@Mulloch94 my thinking with the progesterone was to support the upstream hormones bc im supplementing a downstream, so if my E drops too low, it could potentially aromatize, iirc progesterone has strong antiestrogenic effects but can increase estrogen in men as well... I guess I have a "High T" phenotype (wide face and frame, low voice, large hands and pretty decent muscular development) but I have some gyno and have very little body hair, which seems in line with low 5ar. i also smoked weed chronically for years durring developmental periods which is why I think my 5ar is fucked. to me it seems smarter to start with something that powerful enough to reach escape velocity with regards to my 5ar like exogenous DHT, then when my 5ar is sorted try T... but honestly if i get what i want from DHT i dont see any reason to play around with more hormones and risk suppression.

@alfredoolivas Have you used Deus Medical before? Seeing lots of Mixed reviews.

@Decimus101 I changed my mind on the product, sorry, it's not for sale T base gives me brain fog so I assume it is contaminated make it yourself if you want, the recipe works

@dht How do you know your endogenous production never ceased? Do you have bloodwork?

Haidut has written articles about prostate issues. https://haidut.me/?s=prostate

@SuziQ It recommends external use for legal reasons as it is a cosmetic product. I would suggest you to read carefully all the comments on the energin thread on the ray peat forum. I have used it a few times but I'm not sure I felt much from it when I used it topically, so I use it orally diluted in orange juice to avoid the garlic taste. I really like Energin as it makes me feel very focused and very calm! You need to take it on a full stomach as it makes you very hungry. You might want to take a half dose at the beginning and see how you feel. Hope it helps!

@samson Why would you need more dietary cholesterol? If anything supplementing with an end-point androgen would initiate feedback loops leading to less steroidogenesis, thus lowering the dietary requirement for cholesterol, right? Or maybe you're referring to the fact that androsterone is a thyroid mimetic, thus increasing metabolism in steroid-producing organs, thus leading to a higher requirement of dietary cholesterol? Perhaps you would need more cholesterol because androsterone or its metabolites, being 5AR androgens, stimulate their own synthesis, thus increasing the need for dietary cholesterol to fuel the enhanced steroidogenesis? I don't know which possibility is correct, but if you know which is correct, please enlighten us.

@SLK I think IdeaLabs sells holographic patches? Maybe the life giving store? Are you interested in doing a group buy for these patches ?

@pittybitty Thanks!