I tried livagen (or whichever the liver one is) can’t say I noticed anything, (like better glycogen storage or more working capacity before dipping into stores) but that said, those versed in the stuff say you won’t really “feel” it. I think before trying anymore I’d want to research some markers and do some before and after testing, (otherwise I think it’s kinda on faith). Just my experience

@PrinceTrebata If you mean which has the least contaminants, nobody knows 100% for sure. In a recent thread on the issue somebody recommended Zen Principles brand to me saying that of all the brands they queried about heavy metal contamination theirs had the least. https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/3063/gelatin/9

@wester130 because then you get the bad effects associated with cabergoline, which don't exist with bromocriptine

@wester130 I've taken it with K2 and no issues there. I usually have 3 drops of Tuinone with a small bowl of mushrooms/olive oil/vinegar/salt in between meals, used as one would use carrot salad.

I've been reading about acerola supplements. It seems quite common that they are made from unripened acerola cherries. Because at the unripened stage, it contains more vitamin C. I wonder if this is problematic? Reminds me of Ray Peat's reservations about coconut water, pointing out that it's often made using unripe coconuts because they contain more liquid. Instinct tells me consuming unripened fruit, even in dried powder form, aint so smart.

@disfrutarlo The cardihaler looks good. I don't know enough about it without using it. The carbogen machine I have limits the CO2 to 10%, and cake with a mask that makes it inconvenient to sleep with. That was in all likelihood the intent in the design, as the current version pretty much limits usage to something like 15 minutes per session. This was done to limit unforeseen mishaps in extended use. In a sue happy world, imagined unlikely events can be created to drive a nice and healthful idea and product into bankruptcy. I had to modify my already 'unsafe v1 version of the carbogen machine so that I can breathe carbogen the whole night to get the maximum benefits from its unrestricted use.

If it's a tolerable price and you can tightly control the concentrations (at least 2 things in the ingredients could easily kill you) without attracting crippling attention, it's an obvious winner. Maybe reduce the alcohol, replace it with glycerol and add some menthol or citrus extract.

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@sunsunsun gracias

@sunsunsun i think so yes.

@mag-me chicken wings, shanks, chicarrones (refried in coconut oil)

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Here's a good video on blueberries. This guy tested a bunch of different blueberries from German supermarkets and saw some interesting results. For example Anthocyanin content was 7 times higher in some organic brands. And many more,check it out. He also linked a study that showed People with the highest intake of anthocyanins, had a 32% lower chance of dieing and a 38% lower chance of getting heart disease. PMID: 39496659 https://youtu.be/4r0ufccM5VE?is=73ZIQaW7YdrgLvdw