@LucH no, and also wasn't going heavy on milk which has d3. I think it's mostly from taking 600mg or more daily for about 2 - 3 weeks. I've also noticed occasionally easy bruising on legs or arm when taking aspirin.

@GRay i have no idea the one u got is probably fine i just am sus when a business owner doesnt bother being helpful

you could always just do it yourself if u wanna be thrifty and you already eat le eggs

@Pooooop this blud uses nut as body wash

@sunsunsun I got mine from Forefronthealh it looks like a light/bright green with a tiny bit of yellow to it, hopefully it is real

Just came across this reply of peat’s. Another time he says he thinks large doses of any modified p4 can be dangerous

Post in thread 'Ray Peat Email Advice Depository'
https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/ray-peat-email-advice-depository.1035/post-358649

_ Do you think the addition of keto groups to hormones can make them negative and why? I remember that in the past you told me you wouldn't use them.

_ Yes, I think large doses of any modified progesterone could be harmful to the brain.

@16characterstwas @Balataba

Here again he mentions concern about it’s safety

Post in thread 'Ray Peat Email Advice Depository'
https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/ray-peat-email-advice-depository.1035/post-655036

Q: Mr Peat what do you think about androsterone and 11 KETO dht
A: Not sufficient research to know of safety.

@herenow i think they shrek their metabolisms

they also probably dont stop eating sneed oils

@MagicBold yeah wouldn’t go near anything like finasteride. This might help anyone who might have unknowingly taken it.

Thread 'Finasteride causes gut inflammation, high serotonin, low dopamine; allopregnanolone may treat'
https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/finasteride-causes-gut-inflammation-high-serotonin-low-dopamine-allopregnanolone-may-treat.48844/

“..All in all, finasteride is one nasty substance and there is now significant evidence to support a class-action lawsuit against pharma companies peddling this poison, considering the systemic damage that persists long-after after finasteride has been discontinued, and likely remains until the appropriate treatment (e.g. ALLO + DHT + dopamine agonist) has been administered.”

Been taking 800mcg (two drops of what Health Natura sells) a day for months, for sleep, antidepressive effects, general well-being, but I'm dropping down to 400mcg (one drop) because I've been seeing bits of blue in my stool. I don't think it's actively dangerous, but clearly my body is already well saturated at this low dose!

@oldprolteriat ideallabs has a liquid t3 that is 8mcg per drop.

@AL you are the best thanks

theres multiple posts on the reddit sub about experiencing problems by removing iodized salt from diet.
i used to use pickling salt, it’s idiotic to cook and season with except in soups where it totally dissolves. i actually got some sort of stomach issue that lasted weeks before it resolved from accidently swallowing a bunch of undissolved kosher salt crystas in my coffee. i actually almost threw up a couple times drinking the super concentrated undissolved pickling salt crystals in my milk too
i went back to iodized salt

search the reddit sub. theres one user that says they/them are allergic to seafood and that xer got suicidal after two months off iodized salt and it instantly resolved in two minutes after taking a bit of iodized salt in the middle of the night when xer was on auto pilot as if their body knew they needed it

@Pooooop Get a 2000-3000K, as light as possible. Ideally you want the light as warm as possible and as high wattage as possible. If I remember there were plenty of 250W 2800K incandescent lights available for cheap

@sunsunsun haha

@dapose y tho

@dht

I agree that keeping the steroid cascade going in important, even critical.

If you HPTA is shut down, then even if you are using exogenous androgens, if you aren’t producing p5 and p4 then you aren’t getting any of the benefits that they or their metabolites turn into.

My idea was to use a non-aromatizing compound like masteron or proviron and tbol or whatever else fits the bill with the idea being that your HPTA stays in tact, thus you never lose testicular steroidogenesis completely, thus you still get the youth hormones.

If you were going to use progesterone for this purpose, would you try to inject it or go with oral in tocopherols?

And even if you’re right about progesterone not shutting down HPTA, what do you think about the possibility that it will have anti-androgenic effects at the transcriptional level or even cause lack of libido because of how it affects the male brain?

@Mulloch94 my thinking with the progesterone was to support the upstream hormones bc im supplementing a downstream, so if my E drops too low, it could potentially aromatize, iirc progesterone has strong antiestrogenic effects but can increase estrogen in men as well...

I guess I have a "High T" phenotype (wide face and frame, low voice, large hands and pretty decent muscular development) but I have some gyno and have very little body hair, which seems in line with low 5ar. i also smoked weed chronically for years durring developmental periods which is why I think my 5ar is fucked.

to me it seems smarter to start with something that powerful enough to reach escape velocity with regards to my 5ar like exogenous DHT, then when my 5ar is sorted try T... but honestly if i get what i want from DHT i dont see any reason to play around with more hormones and risk suppression.