@LetTheRedeemed lmfao yeah I think so

@DavidPS the Longevity Project book mentions studies that found high fat (including mufa/pufa), sodium, and alcohol did not have negative effects on people in areas with high social trust and community. Blue zones essentially. I'm thinking current attitudes towards alcohol are very negative and painful, not like those 50+ years ago or in these tight knit areas.

@LetTheRedeemed oranges, citrus, veggies

@GRay said in B-complex and or Multi recommendation?:

I just took a quick look at it, there is citric acid in it.

Can you tell me roughly the danger of citric acid? Is there a Peat article on it?

@GRay said in B-complex and or Multi recommendation?:

extra Selenium, manganese, molybdenum and chromium

Chronometer says parsley and some herbs have considerable amounts of selenium. Is this accurate?

@GRay how bad are Alani energy drinks? They have B vitamins.

@A-Former-User said in Metabolism: sloth to a dopaminergic child:

Holy shit I think I'm about to make it to a healthy metabolism... I'm almost there... Just waiting for my grass fed livers next week

I never noticed much energy surplus from liver, though I like it. Maybe the organic is better. I think good seafood and shellfish is 100% energizing; citrus and other fruits, potatoes. Frozen shrimp is probably one of the best and cheapest shellfish even with whatever heavy metals and contamination is present. It usually instantly gives me energy.
Spanish Shrimp:
fry garlic in butter, add shrimp, salt and pepper.
add parsley, add lemon juice. top with paprika when finished.

@zaaku

I usually have 2-3 cups of coffee so 20-24 oz. That's about 50mg x 3 (100-150mg caffeine).
2-4 oz milk, cream (or powder creamer) and 3-6 tsp sugar.

I think there's some truth to the cortisol / black coffee thing. I used to drink black coffee like crazy and was always taught sugar was bad. Sugar and coconut oil or coconut cream with coffee is a great idea though I don't do it much.

I had lots of energy drinking a can or 20oz of regular Coke, eating one package of sliced cheese, and some bread or citrus/apples or fruit for lunch. I work on my feet so I need energy and this type of high carb is definitely keeping my mind and body upright. Naturally I get tired and can nap or rest easily instead of feeling absolutely burdened.

I think the problem with sedentary work is literally that getting up and moving around is not prioritized. I don't know if high carb would actually be good in sedentary work but probably lots of fruit and cheese or milk seems ideal. I used to have sluggish digestion, "serotonin-daydream," headaches, and general angst and was eating what I would call "trashy keto:" low sugar, pufa, zog slop, yogurt.

Anyways, I think yogurt with fruit and other carbs is good too, though probably small amount of yogurt.
A big reason for my interest in bioenergetics is body composition and fat. But I am almost certain there is seasonal variation. I gain 10 lbs from Nov - Feb and then it's minus 10 lbs in the warmer months. I don't know if it's just the December pufa / Christmas food, lack of sunlight and Vit D, low energy etc., but I'm convinced body weight, water retention, energy are working in cycles like this as generally everything else is in the universe.

Does anyone have a clue?

@the_black_jew which camp are you in? Strong fire doesn't mean good IQ either.

@zaaku caffeine/coffee WITH sugar and milk, more fruit, less pufa, potatoes, sugar. I use aspirin when needed but don't want to over do it.