Thoughts on death?
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It seems like every moment death is possible.
It is crippling to think about.
So what do you all think about dying?
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Death is just a beginning to another plane of existence. I consider it a rite of passage not to be feared. But it doesn't meaning I'll do everything to hasten my death but on the contrary I want to live long in health, and continue to make myself useful. I hope I don't run out out of meaning and purpose as life becomes drudgery.
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@gg12 said in Thoughts on death?:
It seems like every moment death is possible.
It is crippling to think about.
So what do you all think about dying?
Are you religious?It is good to think about such things.
More people should.Death will come….
I don’t fear death
HOW I will die sucks to think about
But once “dead”
I know I will be Home and be whole
And
Yes- I know Jesus -
@Peatful I, too, think this is an interesting topic very much related to Peat-inspired bioenergetics. Did Peat ever say anything about fear of dying or how he thought about mortality?
I think even achieving most of what i was hoping for in the way of increasing basal metabolic rate, shifting perspective toward nearly unconditional (low-PUFA) food-positivity, reducing inflammation, etc. (i.e. adopting the most obvious Peat-inspired practices), I continued to fear death intensely just as when I had been running on stress hormones for a decade on a carb-restricted diet. Although significant biophysical improvements had some noticeably positive effects on mindset, on this topic in particular, I would say I remained rather avoidant--not as much reality testing as I would have liked--thinking about death. Eventually (in the last two years maybe), my fear of death has reduced. I don't know if it was just getting older or Peat-inspired practice. It would be nice to have clearer guidance/reflection on this topic from people who:
(i) stopped fearing death before Peating
(ii) shifted perspective on death after Peating
(iii) shifted perspective on death due to practices unrelated to Peating (to help tease apart where bioenergetics and mindset toward death may be related and where they are not). -
@gg12, have you explored what it is exactly that you fear most about dying?
I’ve witnessed a lot of death, some in tragic ways, have felt passings even when not physically with the dying, felt the fear that they were experiencing, the loss of breath, i.e., the breath of life, the release of all anxiety and pain until there was nothing left but an indescribable peace, received confirmation that they are still very much “alive” and well, and have cheated death a few times myself, and I can say with surety that I’m far less afraid of dying than I am of not having lived, like really lived. It helps that I receive confirmation from those no longer embodied that we continue to exist outside of these human meat suits we wear for a brief time, but my belief still requires some faith in this current world. A book you might find helpful in easing your fear of death is Dying to Be Me by Anita Moorjani. She had a near death experience and miraculous recovery from end stage cancer. And to answer your last question, I was raised Catholic but I’m spiritual, not religious.
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@T-3 said in Thoughts on death?:
@Peatful I, too, think this is an interesting topic very much related to Peat-inspired bioenergetics. Did Peat ever say anything about fear of dying or how he thought about mortality?
I think even achieving most of what i was hoping for in the way of increasing basal metabolic rate, shifting perspective toward nearly unconditional (low-PUFA) food-positivity, reducing inflammation, etc. (i.e. adopting the most obvious Peat-inspired practices), I continued to fear death intensely just as when I had been running on stress hormones for a decade on a carb-restricted diet. Although significant biophysical improvements had some noticeably positive effects on mindset, on this topic in particular, I would say I remained rather avoidant--not as much reality testing as I would have liked--thinking about death. Eventually (in the last two years maybe), my fear of death has reduced. I don't know if it was just getting older or Peat-inspired practice. It would be nice to have clearer guidance/reflection on this topic from people who:
(i) stopped fearing death before Peating
(ii) shifted perspective on death after Peating
(iii) shifted perspective on death due to practices unrelated to Peating (to help tease apart where bioenergetics and mindset toward death may be related and where they are not).I think fearing death is actually “healthy”
Meaning
It should push one to search for real meaning, purpose, GodMost will distract themselves from this reality with counterfeits
Ie: materialism, self, liesIf Peat spoke on it
I am unawareBeing metabolically well
Would take the panic away hopefully
So one could be contemplative and earnest in their searchThe further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.
SD
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I believe in reincarnation personally. I have memories that I believe are my soul picking my parents and being shot into this world.
But just like any other belief that’s just the extent. It would be arrogant for anyone to say they know for sure. Nobody knows. It’s the biggest question of mankind.
Whatever belief you hold, hopefully it’s reassuring. I don’t think it’s possible for there to just be blank darkness afterwards. How can there be dark or nothingness if there’s no longer a brain or eyes to perceive it?
I think Ray talked about joining the neutrino sea after death
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It is coming!
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(I'm deleting my original post because I don't think I'm properly relaying the argument. I'm recalling it from years back, and am not doing it justice. I'll re-post if it comes completely back to me.)
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There is no such thing as the Afterlife or Reincarnation.
Religions were invented to keep the stoopids believing in something.
I have proof that the Afterlife and Reincarnation does not exist (can't show it to you because you're not Illuminati).
This is your one and only life.
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Your run abroad doesn't seem to have done you much good JG. What a surprise.
@JamesGatz said in Thoughts on death?:
Afterlife or Reincarnation
You have time.
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@ThinPicking Maybe he got oneshotted by ayahuasca.
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@JamesGatz
A 33rd or those in the Illuminati would never publicly acknowledge that
That’s part of their oath
Their power
Their secret (society)….. -
Death may be just a concept to keep us pushing into sharing energy through the universe.
It's a waste of time to think about it since you can't prove anything. But, it's true that the more energy you produce, the better you feel, then maybe that's our purpose and the fear of death keeps this role alive.
Chasing freedom till you get it also could be a purpose so you decide where to share that energy. -
Life and Death are Normal.
It's true that really thinking about death can cripple certain egotistical ways of life, but I don't think it's crippling all-in-all.
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Not to get too "new age-y" but at a material level, there is unity. Even the Trinity appears to be a way of saying that opposition or dualism exists within a third "something" of space and time. When I began learning about how Church theology is Aristotle and Augustine (and ultimately Plato) - Jewish, Egyptian, Babylonian, and other myths and stories aside - I saw a big problem interpreting scripture literally which is what basically everyone does.
Anyways, if it's an end it's also a beginning. What was becomes what is. Death becomes things and people and animals, but the living absorb those absences and transformations too. We could reject and deny death. The book "Denial of Death" by Ernest Becker makes the argument that that's what we do in order to live. I haven't read it entirely but it discusses self vs body, things like this. He mentions how the dread of death may be serving a function that is not concerned with the literal reality. That would have some biological and symbolic implications. From Ernest Jones' biography of Freud, Becker quotes:
Freud always faced with complete courage any real danger to his life, which proves that the neurotic dread of dying must have had some other meaning than the literal one.
Anyways, I don't know. Some of these figures are heroic. When you read about martyrs they seem to want to die - whether Christians, Muslim, etc. They seem to be bent on reward in the afterlife or on their unworthiness in this life. But that seems to be a distraction from the dread of the idea of death, which is why I think the "reward" of heroes, soldiers, brave people, is also something about having fulfilled this life in the very act of dying, simplifying it. The way so many people say "die for this country," it's implied that serving is dying and that for this cause or that cause may not align with everyone's idea of a just cause of war and a Good or moral death. The idea of accidental deaths or overdoses or compromising deaths makes us cringe at how we live. There are tragic deaths and peaceful deaths but everything is dying... and being born. Jonah in the Whale is the Sun being reborn. The birth (resurrection) is the three-day period when the Sun is at its lowest before slowly rising after the winter solstice. The spring equinox is the correct New Year from ancient times. Sometimes it's good to dwell on the idea that you might be struck down tomorrow, and get your affairs in order.
I think about death every day and in different ways, maybe not consciously. Weird how "born again" Christians rely on the birth concept when birth is also the opposite of death... so Puritans or harsh sects might be the opposite, preaching death and mortification of the flesh.
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@Peatful said in Thoughts on death?:
@JamesGatz
A 33rd or those in the Illuminati would never publicly acknowledge that
That’s part of their oath
Their power
Their secret (society)…..No its actually ok, they gave me special permission to tell you idiots that theres no such thing as the Afterlife.
Im actually glad that youre christian though, because we actually need idiots believing in christianity to make the world a better place.
How is your husband David doing by the way? I heard he recently got promoted at his job. Good for him.
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@gg12 When you die you can't peat anymore so it's kinda not cool so don't die and peat as long as you can.
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The misguided feeling of reincarnation that everyone has is probably just blood memories, or an awareness of the boundless nature of consciousness.
@Androsclerozat said in Thoughts on death?:
It's a waste of time to think about it since you can't prove anything.
Life is about preparing you for death. Schopenhauer is right in that this life could not justify itself or be of any meaning unless it grasps beyond itself. My advise is to reflect joyfully on death as often as you can as this is the closest you can get to heaven before you get there. There are glimpses of the Beatific vision around every corner.
