@cs3000 Thanks a lot for this. I’ll look into it

He’s got an aversion to basil. But maybe in a capsule he could get it in.

@BroJonas Yeah he does high fiber high protein low carb meals and it still spikes well above 200. He’s done that all year and it’s gotten nowhere yet. It seems like his liver is constantly synthesizing and pumping out glucose at a base level to try to keep energy balance

@LucH Thanks. It seems no matter the amount of carb he eats in a balanced meal with fiber his blood sugar always spikes. He follows that sort of approach to manage spikes and gets a lot of protein. But his biggest peak is after fasting all night. His liver is pumping out glucose via gluconeogenesis constantly it seems.

My father (69 yo) was diagnosed type 2 diabetic after struggling for a year with severe weight loss, ravenous appetite, thirst and frequent urination. He finally went to a doc and had super high blood sugar and A1c. It seems like he’s aged 10 years in the past couple years dealing with this.

He’s been on metformin for a year and it’s hardly done anything to his blood sugar. He’s mostly done his best to manage it by reducing his carb intake and following the typical diabetes managing ideas.

His blood sugar is highest in the AM. More than after meals. Which tells me stress hormones are driving this. His blood sugar rarely goes below 200 and it’s been like this for a year now. He’s withering away and it’s scaring him. Docs aren’t doing Jack ofc.

He recently quit smoking finally after getting hit with a gnarly flu. He still drinks coffee all day while eating minimal carbs, which is likely cranking his stress hormones. I’ve explained it to him. He’s even entertained a Denise Minger talk on high carb low fat for diabetes. But he thinks actually trying that for himself would be crazy.

I take thyroid myself but he would not be open to trying something that out of the box. But it could possibly help him. He’s definitely hypo.

Thanks for reading. Would love to hear some ideas on what we can do

@adrn100k Maybe testing again would have a different reading of TSH.

How’s the temp and pulse tho?

@jet9 I don’t think there’s a “best meal”. No one can predict how someone will react to certain foods.

I try to utilize a variety of foods that I digest well. I try to do 3 to 4 times carbs to protein in a given meal to stay on the carb train and not dip into the stress hormones too much.

@MuleMan I just go by Peat’s word, not doing more than that within an hour.

But I think NDT absorbs differently and might be ok to do bigger doses. I would just hate to overload the liver and have it dump what it perceives as excess t3. But I think you would be able to tell if this is happening or not

@BeamsOfEnergy I take cynoplus and add cynomel on occasion.

I divide the 2 grains throughout the day and have some with every meal. It’s kinda annoying but that’s what I do.

40mg with breakfast, 27mg with lunch, and 40mg with dinner. Should be around 2 grains that way.

I just try to have each dose have less than 10mcg of t3.

That’s the only way I figured how to do it. If someone has other methods I’d like to know

I like the one where a diabetic friend was losing his toes to gangrene and would heal when given thyroid. When he’d forget to take it it would come back. And this back and forth happened a few times.

I finally got my waking temp to hit 97.8 taking 2 grains of cynoplus.

I’d recommend maybe trying cynoplus instead. Or maybe it just takes a while for you to adjust to the dose. Broda Barnes said it can take a couple months