@BioEclectic I will try that. And I completely agree, that much cardio is bad, and individuals who make 'sport' of it seriously have something wrong with them (goggins poopy pants) . In the end I am just trying to figure out why my muscles give out before my actual "tiredness" and breath give out. For most people it is the other wat around, no?

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@Jakeandpace Nature is objectively more restorative in terms of lowering stress and increasing androgens. Walking in the city has its own uses as you interact more with humans and can get inspired by human eminence.

@JulofEnoch yes

@Lovesickhs18 literally just seconds on; 30 seconds off. 10 times. Then, just novel walking in nature. You really don't need hard cardio training. It will tear you down.

@donovan Tag me too I'm doing MT as well. lol

@questforhealth everything is perfectly explained in the thread

@Lovesickhs18 I use this gelatin powder when I'm too lazy to make a gelatinous broth. https://www.nowfoods.com/products/natural-foods/beef-gelatin-powder It's pretty tasteless. I add it to all sorts of things I'm eating and also to my dog's food. My favorite proteins are milk and cheese, shellfish, lamb and bone-in cuts of meat and local fish. But post workout, it is nice to get right to glucose+calcium+salt. Then at your leisure get to your meals and fruit. Magnesium is also very thermogenic. Magnesium oil is better than any dit da jow I have used post training.

@Regina I will.

I don’t agree with Dr. Peat on this. Eccentric exercise helps build protective strength in muscles and connective tissue that can prevent injury.

Depending on what you eat and the amount of calories you'll still be digesting after the workout, but I don't know if it'll be enough, I think you'd have to pay attention to how you feel after the workout and the next day and adjust accordingly That being said, if eating disrupts your sleep why don't you try a "liquid meal"? Milk + gelatin/collagen(or whey/casein) + sugar and salt From a "workout perspective" the importance of the post-workout meal is to stop muscle protein breakdown(MPB) and stimulate muscle protein synthesis(MPS): "Indeed, in addition to the 3-fold rise in MPS from essential amino acids(EAA), there is also a significant anti-proteolytic (∼40–50%) effect of feeding on skeletal muscle which is apparently entirely attributable to insulin." "It follows that increasing dietary EAA availability after exercise enhances both the magnitude and duration of the increase in MPS."

@CO3 Thanks for the advice, I think I will try climbing! there's an indoor one close to me. Yeah I agree even soccer I like playing (lately trying to not do it breathlessly) just because of the social and game aspects, some moments are truly epic. Padel tennis is also really popular here now and always keeps at least 4 friends in touch with each other

@Aryan_Racist why would you get gyno from taking progesterone orally or rubbing it on your legs/feet? just dont apply it to your nipples if your fat or have existing gyno. ray said only 5mg (kernal size drop of progest-e) is enough for males. and you can use olive oil to increase its spread if you want to apply it topically.

@herayclitus my current workout routine lower/upper/rest/lower/upper/rest/rest. First lower session is focused on bb squats, then a deadlift accessory and then some isolation work. First upper session is focused on BB bench press, then a overhead press accessory followed by isolation work. Second lower session is focused on deadlifts, then a squat accessory followed by isolation work. Second upper session is focused on OHP, then a bench accessory followed by isolation work. Nothing fancy, but it has been working quite well. I'm going to peak in the next 4 weeks to set new PR's.

@kyrre carbamide forte

@dannyphantom Ok. Im curious behind the mechanisms of why the leg would be more effective than say the arm. Perhaps it’s just a matter of convenience. Easier to wrap your leg than arm.