@Buckian Ive had similar experiences. I now only use red light therapy before my last meal of the day and never after

@CO3 looks like Im guilty of being silly

@CO3 I could definitely see it being related to higher nutrient intake since gelatin powder has virtually no nutrients and does require increased carb intake, possibly leading to imbalances.

I was just wondering if for muscle recovery muscle meats could be good to include. The logic being that the amino acids required for muscle protein synthesis are not present in gelatin. I personally crave high protein foods a lot, especially after working out legs I need a least 200 grams to not be hungry at night.

I assume everyone here is familiar with the idea that many of the aminos in (muscle) meat can be pro-inflammatory. Also it is recommended to balance muscle meat with gelatin or to avoid muscle meats all together and keep protein intake moderate.

From my own personal experience as a 95-100kg fairly muscular male who lifts weights, muscle meat consumption is very beneficial for someone like me. Also keeping protein (of which a fair share comes from muscle meats) intake pretty high gives me way more enegy, better sleep, better recovery and more mental clarity. The majority of my protein still comes from dairy.

The mental clarity part surprised me especially, because i expected to have less mental clarity due to increased serotonin from the tryptophan but the opposite happened.

Lastly, consuming gelatin or collagen with my muscle meats lowers blood sugar a lot for me and I feel better without consuming it.

Anybody here have similar experiences?

@thyroidchor27 i remember ray peat saying that as time went on he only ate the liver once a month instead of once a week due to the vitamin a content, but this doesnt mean that he got hypothyroid everytime he ate it or that vitamin a is always bad to consume. It just means he was eating more than he needed

@thyroidchor27 when did ray peat say this?

@CO3 swishing around baking soda in the mouth can give some relief

@ATP thats just a meme

@HubblyBubbly wont leaving milk on the teeth allow bacteria to grow?

@brad Lets gooooo