@gg12

Been there, Mike Fave has some good content about controlling blood sugar as well as Chris master John and their both peat influenced. Also I’d go to the doctor if you’re seriously concerned.

@Corngold

Combats most of the inflammatory effects. Read this article by the man himself

@Corngold

If you’re talking about garlic possibly yes it might help with absorption of B1.

@dapose said in B complex:

Do you think high Biotin is going to through things out of whack? Sometimes I take 5mg b7 in case I have some mitochondria not working properly. ( I definitely have some damaged Mito’s!)
Peace!

I think biotin can cause problems if you’re not careful. Always be paying attention to your bodies reaction

https://youtu.be/uiEf9TydOQA?si=q_rzGP5CkLdgC0NS

@Corngold said in B complex:

@Jakeandpace

No. I've heard people say B12 or B6, or B complex can really help, and this was years ago, but I've never taken vitamins or B complex.

Is allithiamine in garlic not the same thing as thiamine? I eat lots of garlic but not sure if the B vitamins are very high in it.
I want to get vitamins only through food. It appears to me that most manufactured vitamins and supplements are tainted or poor quality. I understand there are arguments for trying to boost these vitamins temporarily. I'm also thinking I could be deficient in B vitamins because I don't eat as much fruit / citrus as I could.

Yea allthiamine is the fat soluble version of thiamine

Anyone take a b complex or have any good ones that they have noticed benefit from? In theory it seems like a good idea but like I’m not so sure it is. Just some anecdotes would be fine

@SpaceManJim

It's behind a paywall on his substack but I will share a short quote on it and hopefully I don't get banned from it for sharing.

"This is consistent with my hypothesis that B6 neuropathy is due to increasing transamination, with bottlenecks in CoA-requiring pathways leading to CoA sequestration, which can be aggravated by increasing the substrates that enter the bottlenecked pathway, relieved by cofactors that lead to the release of CoA, and relieved by adding B5 to help make new CoA."

That's his claim. He says in his own self experimentation he used P5P and this caused tingling extremities but also better dreams which he liked. He included zinc and this made things worse (but also better as his dreams were better) and concluded it was a bottleneck in energy metabolism. He included b5 and at varying doses and it solved his problem by the sounds of it.

"I have stayed on 75 mg of B6 and 500 milligrams of B5 for months because it is helping my sleep."

of course if you read the full article he provides in depth explanation for this. I really like his ideas on the bottlenecks in energy metabolism as I experienced similar things to him taking biotin in excess.

@Milk-Destroyer

Not for me. Considering the niacin is in the form of Niacinamide it wouldn’t make sense for it to be that so probably something else in it.

I’m making a more general enquiry I suppose about b vitamins and their effects (sometimes negative when in excess)

Edit* sorry I just saw the rest of the post, it could have been the citric acid your right. Glad your psoriasis cleared. Do you drink any form of caffeine or take any supplements as of now?

Anyone know why I get odd symptoms from energy red bull and not coffee? I think it must be the b vitamins, they make me feel uneasy whereas coffee does not. This happens even if I take the red bull with food. It does however definetly give a massive boost in dopamine feeling which I think is from the b6 and a reduction in acne with I think is from the pantothenic acid.

I think it’s causing my blood sugar to spike and then drop dramatically, it might be the Niacinamide. I just took a b complex and had a similar reaction. Not sure the b12 is too helpful but I suspect it is probably either a net positive or neutral because I think I was deficient.

Coffee causes an increase in acne but less oily skin. Red bull results in less acne but more oily skin noticeable on my hands???

I think it’s causing me blood sugar issues almost like diabetes, I get blurry vision in the mornings which is reduced to almost none from coffee drinking compared to energy drinks.

Really enjoyed the benefits of energy drinks but the downsides outweigh them in my opinion so I’m probably gonna quit. I may try the b complex with food and see if it makes a difference. I’ve experimented with Niacinamide, thiamine, riboflavin, pantothenic acid and biotin in isolation and Niacinamide and biotin seem to cause the blood sugar problems and maybe even pantothenic acid. A more tailored approach may be necessary, or maybe I was lacking thiamin and riboflavin to balance the other B’s in redbull.
Was gonna post on my log thread but this is my thread as well and I think it relates so here it is.

For now, drink coffee, have fun and don’t get to attached to ideology of nutrition. It’s all a big balancing game, you don’t want to fuck your body up at your age. Keep reading and do minimal experimentation, if something isn’t working stop doing it.

Only advice is eat more (try make it whole foods, this is important), drink some coffee, do some exercise that isn’t too exhaustive and have fun. Please do not stress too much about your body at this age, that would be the most unhealthy thing to do.