@CrumblingCookie

Great thanks. Been meaning to try b6. Really mapping out all the Bs and their effects on me at this point

Does anyone know why when I take b12 (hydroxycobalamin) I feel slightly strange. It makes me feel good and strange at the same time.

Somehow it gives me a sharper jaw and makes my face sit in a more natural position to where I naturally mew however I can’t concentrate quite as well as I’d like and noticed some hair thinning and possible skin issues.

I’ve heard people talk about overmethylation. Is this something that can occur with hydroxycobalamin?

I had similar effects with folic acid but that made me even more mentally dull which I put down to it depleting b12 but I’m not so sure anymore. Also pantothenic acid thinned my hair. The only b that seemed to ever thicken it was b3 Niacinamide which also would give me bad blood sugar reactions if I wasn’t meticulous about dosing and timing.

Some good resources would be helpful. I suspected I was deficient only because I got positive reactions when supplementing like my nail moons coming back on my thumbs and those mentioned above as well as slight improvements in other areas. Thank you

@gg12

Been there, Mike Fave has some good content about controlling blood sugar as well as Chris master John and their both peat influenced. Also I’d go to the doctor if you’re seriously concerned.

@Corngold

Combats most of the inflammatory effects. Read this article by the man himself

@Corngold

If you’re talking about garlic possibly yes it might help with absorption of B1.

@dapose said in B complex:

Do you think high Biotin is going to through things out of whack? Sometimes I take 5mg b7 in case I have some mitochondria not working properly. ( I definitely have some damaged Mito’s!)
Peace!

I think biotin can cause problems if you’re not careful. Always be paying attention to your bodies reaction

https://youtu.be/uiEf9TydOQA?si=q_rzGP5CkLdgC0NS

@Corngold said in B complex:

@Jakeandpace

No. I've heard people say B12 or B6, or B complex can really help, and this was years ago, but I've never taken vitamins or B complex.

Is allithiamine in garlic not the same thing as thiamine? I eat lots of garlic but not sure if the B vitamins are very high in it.
I want to get vitamins only through food. It appears to me that most manufactured vitamins and supplements are tainted or poor quality. I understand there are arguments for trying to boost these vitamins temporarily. I'm also thinking I could be deficient in B vitamins because I don't eat as much fruit / citrus as I could.

Yea allthiamine is the fat soluble version of thiamine

Anyone take a b complex or have any good ones that they have noticed benefit from? In theory it seems like a good idea but like I’m not so sure it is. Just some anecdotes would be fine

@SpaceManJim

It's behind a paywall on his substack but I will share a short quote on it and hopefully I don't get banned from it for sharing.

"This is consistent with my hypothesis that B6 neuropathy is due to increasing transamination, with bottlenecks in CoA-requiring pathways leading to CoA sequestration, which can be aggravated by increasing the substrates that enter the bottlenecked pathway, relieved by cofactors that lead to the release of CoA, and relieved by adding B5 to help make new CoA."

That's his claim. He says in his own self experimentation he used P5P and this caused tingling extremities but also better dreams which he liked. He included zinc and this made things worse (but also better as his dreams were better) and concluded it was a bottleneck in energy metabolism. He included b5 and at varying doses and it solved his problem by the sounds of it.

"I have stayed on 75 mg of B6 and 500 milligrams of B5 for months because it is helping my sleep."

of course if you read the full article he provides in depth explanation for this. I really like his ideas on the bottlenecks in energy metabolism as I experienced similar things to him taking biotin in excess.

@Milk-Destroyer

Not for me. Considering the niacin is in the form of Niacinamide it wouldn’t make sense for it to be that so probably something else in it.

I’m making a more general enquiry I suppose about b vitamins and their effects (sometimes negative when in excess)

Edit* sorry I just saw the rest of the post, it could have been the citric acid your right. Glad your psoriasis cleared. Do you drink any form of caffeine or take any supplements as of now?