For the 2021-2023 NHANES data, in order to remove TRT users, I screened out those with testosterone over 600 who also had LH below reference range. Apparently TRT lowers LH and FSH to near zero. I also removed some data that was probably in error. So average testosterone in 2021-2023 was 451 ng/dl - no major difference from 2015-2016's average of 459 ng/dl. 2021-2023: 20-24: 536 25-29: 464 30-34: 476 35-39: 440 2015-2016: 20-24: 535 25-29: 556 30-34: 461 35-39: 466 2011-2012 20-24: 468 25-29: 438 30-34: 435 35-39: 392 2003-2004 20-24: 673 25-29: 537 30-34: 541 35-39: 589

if its too acidic i add 1 gram of baking soda and some sugar (food grade aluminium free), the bicarb reacts with the acid to clear some (dont need a lot) and gives a little salt to balance the water, but yeh probably not the best if a sweet brand is available or vs eating ripe oranges

I’d vote stop all your supplements except D&K. Keep B complex if you’re sure it’s well formulated and no bad “additional ingredients. And cut the coconut oil. Not cuz it’s bad but you have coconut oil on your body you’re trying to loose. 1000mg of Mag is displacing calcium and you aren’t eating that much Cal. Good luck that’s my two cents. And walk more!

@Insomniac pregnenolone needs to be used with a lecithin carriera to work for topical use.

@sneedful https://longestlevers.com/fat-loss/honey-diet.html

@NokiaDrift I'm so happy to see you're trying the glucose protocol. I was going to suggest it but then finished reading your post and saw that you're already giving it a go. I'm in my 4th month, but being a tad older than you I expect it could take me quite a bit longer to be 100%. You have overcome so much and are on the right track! Carry on and do keep everyone posted!

@Jakeandpace same, niacinamide and thiamine are kings.

@Ecstatic_Hamster said in Ideas for getting more CO2 into your everyday routine: Control pause gets worse within 10 or 15 minutes of eating anything, especially protein, and especially foods you aren’t tolerant of. The CP diminishes for 3 or so hours. I have heard it has to do with ions soaked up in the process of creating hydrochloric acid for stomach digestive stage, and these ions are then picked back up into the body. I doubt this is the best explanation but it kind of explains why meat lowers CP more than eating fruit does. It does not explain the food intolerance part. As far as the Ray Peat diet (whatever that is) resulting in weight gain I find that when I limited sugar consumption and consumed more starch, I was able to easily lose body fat. That is the way most of the thin world eats. Thanks @Ecstatic_Hamster i missed this earlier! Iv always noticed an initial lessening of symptoms immediately after eating i think from the pleasure of it, then followed by a worsening of symptoms about 30mins later as energy is taken for digestion. Interesting to see how this patches in with cp!

@samson Thats good. Im the same way. I think 3 or more a day that require little or no wiping is optimal

I realize this is an old thread by an inactive poster but a few comments for those who may be considering something similar. 1lb of muscle meat, 2 cups of slow digesting milk, rice, questionable vegetable fibers and starch? That's an aweful lot of food and mixing for most folks going to bed just a few hours later, all while trying to lose mid-section fat. Maybe the original poster keeps unique hours but I can't think of many folks who would need that much and that sort of energy at that time.

@Sugarnotsnow really never worked for me maybe i could try it mixed with dermarolling/stamping that would be more interesting

Have you had additional gout flareups since this time, or do you believe you've found a permanent solution for them? I never suffered gout until I began Peating, but I suspect it's because I didn't consistently incorporate the fiber sources Ray recommends (raw carrots/boiled mushrooms/bamboo shoots) into my diet. This may have left me unable to properly flush endotoxins, and resulted in my gout flare up. Anyway, I'm in the middle of my second flare up now, and committed to incorporating more fiber in my diet going forward, but I'm still looking for help dealing with the immediate debilitating pain.

@xpat NAC helps as it thins the mucus and makes it less sticky and much more easily expelled or coughed out. As NAC increases the sulfhydryl bonds that make up GSH (or reduced glutathione), and when the GSH/GSSG ratio increases, the mucus becomes thinner and there is less resistance to the mucus being expelled or expectorated.

@Androsclerozat I just lost a lot of weight really quick and it fealt cleansing. I haven't done it again though because its was very stressful. Im sure I'll do it eventually though

Mike Fave (Brother of the Fraternal bioenergeos) did a well researched interview where he basically roasted it, yet went in with an open mind in his research. https://rss.com/podcasts/health-and-harmony/1482022/ For what it's worth, when I tried it for hair loss, both topically and internally, I most likely screwed up my liver -- and taking spoonful's of coconut oil would not do the same.

@Snow I’m not opposed, I’ll look into it. My concern with oil or wax based is not that it won’t absorb necessarily (possibly a problem with wax), but more so that it won’t maintain moistness adequately… idk feeling things out here

IIRC Ray listed Zinc Oxide as the safest for protecting against UV. Some companies sell a balm, usually cocoa/shea butter and beeswax mixed with Zinc Oxide. I actually bought such a balm last summer and used it a few times but in the end didn't see the point because my skin wasn't even burning without it anyway.