@splithead_ And my temps are up by about 0.2-0.4F to 97.6F, so very nearly Broda baseline.

I've been taking small amounts of Progest-E, 1 unpopped popcorn kernel sized drop per week for three weeks, and I've been having some odd symptoms. For the first dose there was the expected calming effect, the second nothing really noticeable, and then with the third I've had a myriad of symptoms: fatigue, depression, mood swings, nausea, reduced appetite, up to four days out from the most recent dose.

The two possible reasons I've come up with is the progesterone raising estrogen levels, since I'm male, or the following from Generative Energy:

"...estrogen dominance can create a vicious circle, in which excess estrogen (or deficient progesterone) blocks thyroid secretion, causing the liver to allow estrogen to accumulate to even higher levels. Progesterone (even one dose, in some cases) can break the cycle. However, if the gland is very big, the person can experience a few months of hyperthyroidism, as the gland returns to normal."

This was the purpose of trying the progestrone in the first place, but of course Peat says "it is better to allow the enlarged gland to shrink more slowly by using a thy­roid supplement" in the next sentence lol.

Not all the symptoms line up with either theory neatly. I'm open to the idea that the problem is unrelated, but I haven't been able to identify any other potential causes and this is the only recent change to my diet/supplements. My current plan is to stop taking it and let everything stabilize. Anyone have experience with this?

Thank you all for the advice.

@yerrag You are correct, 1500mg. I copied a percentage over on accident. Whoops.

@BroJonas I would like to have higher maintenance, but what should I be aiming for? Just keep going until I start gaining? I don't intend to do this for more than a couple months, and will start modulating up after.

@Peatful I've assumed I was healed because the symptoms I was aiming to fix have been ameliorated. I should have been specific: My waking basal temperature started out at 95.9F and has risen to 96.8F. I'm using Barnes's target range of 97.8F - 98.2F. I hope with this stricter diet it should continue to rise, even with the lowered calories.

@DavidPS That sounds quite useful. I'll get one of those, thanks.

"Good nutrition and sleep are sufficient therapy for a healthy young organism." - Ray Peat, Generative Energy

I started eating according to Peaty principles back at the beginning of the year in order to combat fatigue issues and low BMR. I'm glad to say that it worked, but my weight shot up from 190lbs -> 215lbs in just a couple months. Now that I feel all around healthy (despite my avg. temp being slightly low), I want to see if I can bring down my BFP.

I've begun the Haidut sub 10% dietary fat method, which frankly I don't understand the mechanism behind other than forcing carb metabolism utilizes a more efficient method of ATP creation, along with the advice of maintaining a high calcium/phosphate ratio (avg. 150mg calcium/day, working on dairy tolerance and planning to double).

Currently, I'm eating 2300cal/day with a 72C/18P/10F split along with standard strength training.

My diet consists of nearly solely:

• Fruit/fruit juice
• Coffee
• Milk/cheese/greek yogurt (all skim/non-fat)
• Nixtamalized corn tortillas
• Tilapia
• Pico de Gallo
• Occasional eggs/beef
• Occasional coconut oil

With the oral supplements (not ideal I know):

• 1000mg Magnesium
• 500mg Vit. E (dl-alpha)
• B Complex
• 1000 mg Thiamine HCL
• 1.5g Creatine HCL
• Occasional D3+K2

Does anyone else have experience with trying this, and are there any nutrients I'm obviously missing?

I'm trying to see how far I can get without thyroid supplementation or any other sort of serious therapy. I'm young (early 20s), so I want to get as far as possible with diet/lifestyle.

It's been two weeks and I'm down ~3lbs, although I stupidly started creatine at the same time which confounds things. Notably, last time I dropped weight from 220lbs -> 175lbs, I had to eat at 2000cal and then 1700cal, so I hope to get this number up. The overall goal is to find a diet where my maintenance weight remains low while energy remains high.

Will report back with results.

@Cearrson I've had good results from high dose thiamine, although it doesn't directly affect the symptoms but gives me more energy to meet them. This is a good thread by Jay on twitter. Overall diet changes for easier digestion/sugar/proper fueling is what helped me the most, though I don't have experience with OCD.

@functionalgirl Interesting, glad to hear that. Better than just ignoring it.

@jgs130 I will start that one soon, thanks.

@ThinPicking Gotta represent the goat PilotRedSun.

I'm pretty open minded. I got to Peat and all of this through twitter, so I've heard of the suppression. I was hoping there was a simpler explanation though. Suppose I must read some more.

I just finished Hypothyroidism by Dr. Broda Barnes and I've found it convincing, but almost too good to be true.

A major claim like "94% of those who...should have been candidates for heart attacks during the study were protected from them by thyroid therapy," across a 1500 person sample, seems shockingly high and worthy of much more research. My question is then, with such a massive success rate, why haven't these therapies been explored further by mainstream medicine? As stated in the book, they are much cheaper than the standard treatments, but that can't be the only reason, can it?

Forgive me if this has been answered elsewhere or is a dumb question. Still new to this.