Milk and Cheese with NDT feedback
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I'm wondering what everyone experience is with NDT taken in proximity with milk or cheese.
Did the dairy decrease absorption of the thyroid?
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@GRay, I’m not sure if the same can be said for calcium supplements, but I’ve always taken NDT with meals to slow its absorption so I can dose more than the physiologically appropriate 4 mcg of T3 per hour without running into problems, and my thyroid numbers and stats (temps, pulse rate etc.) are the best on a dairy-based diet so it hasn’t been my experience that dairy decreases the absorption of thyroid. I don’t recall Ray ever saying to take thyroid away from dairy, either. I only ever heard him say it’s better to take it with food and he recommended dairy so…
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I drink milk all day long, so I could never take it without proximity to dairy. I use armour ndt, which has to be digested for body usage.
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Thanks for your feedback. What is your dose/frequency?
I think the T3 in Armour is bound to protein, so it may be more slow released already than Cytomel for example. I’m not sure Peat used to refer to a synthetic T3 and therefore the need to take it with food multiple times per day?
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Thanks, what your dose/frequency with the Armour?
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@GRay said in Milk and Cheese with NDT feedback:
Thanks for your feedback. What is your dose/frequency?
I think the T3 in Armour is bound to protein, so it may be more slow released already than Cytomel for example. I’m not sure Peat used to refer to a synthetic T3 and therefore the need to take it with food multiple times per day?
Yes, the thyroid hormones in NDT are bound to thyroglobulin, but even though it’s a slower release than synthetic, I was taking 3 grains at one point and found it to be way too much T3 in one dose—it triggered symptoms of adrenaline—and Ray’s recommendations to me were the same as his recommendations to those taking synthetic T3. I currently take 1 1/2 grains of Armour daily and half a grain with my three main meals.
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thanks, that is good info I appreciate it.
3 grains all in once is for sure too much.
I made an experiment years ago when I was taking NP thyroid. 1 grain taken on empty stomach, then I measured my FT3 2hr after and it came back at 4.5, 6hr after it was at 4.1, showing it doesn't come down that quickly.
Probably 1 grain would be the max NDT to take all in once, if it is taken with food, we can then expect even a lower release of the FT3.I now take Armour and follow a similar schedule to yours, half grain on empty stomach before breakfast and another half before lunch.
Do you take yours right before the meal or after, and wondering what time do you take your last half and what time you can sleep after that. I tried to take half grain right before going to bed, and it definitely interfered with my sleep
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@GRay, my pleasure.
The results of your experiment are very interesting. Thank you for sharing! I take thyroid right before my meal or during it—I oftentimes remember to take it after I’ve started eating—and I take my last dose around 7 pm and go to bed around 10 pm. -
@Jennifer thanks. sorry for late response, I have some trouble seeing notifications.
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No worries, @GRay. You’re welcome.