if you take thyroid hormones, what is your experience with thiamine whilst hypothyroid and euthyroid
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@beriberi seems like alot of zinc relative to copper
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@sunsunsun adequate copper was making me too tan
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@beriberi said in if you take thyroid hormones, what is your experience with thiamine whilst hypothyroid and euthyroid:
do you have higher or lower thiamine requirements whilst euthyroid to achieve symptom relief?
Prior to thyroid supplementation (standardized NDT—WP Thyroid and Armour), I was hypoglycemic and during episodes would suffer adrenaline surges (a racing heart, shortness of breath etc.), leading to convulsions and syncope, and thiamine exacerbated them, however, with thyroid (and the right diet), thiamine and most other supplements have no effect on me and I find I don’t need them. Thyroid, vitamin D3 in winter, and a high quality diet with adequate energy intake have been enough for me to maintain my health.
I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith
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@beriberi least racially self-hating South American
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@sunsunsun it's native american
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@Jennifer what forms and dosages of thiamine were you taking? my point was i experienced hypoxia in deficiency and in severe overdoses relative to my thyroid intake. which made me realize i have to take a very specific dose of thiamine alongside thyroid hormone to not get deficiency or an excess
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@beriberi, your point wasn’t lost on me. You were clear in your initial post.
The forms of thiamine I tried were HCl and TTFD. It was years ago but if I recall correctly, the dosages were 500 mg for the HCl and 100 mg for the TTFD. -
@Jennifer well it is interesting you don't need thiamine on NDT, do you know for sure if there is any t3 in your NDT? i tried x4 130mg forefront NDT pills daily for a week and i felt a little different from roughly the same equivalent dose of cynoplus, where supposedly 65mg of NDT is 9mcg t3 and 37mcg t4.
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@beriberi, there is T3 in my NDT, yes. It’s a standardized NDT (Armour) prescribed by my doctor and I get routine testing (every 3 months). Like most over-the-counter thyroid glandulards sold as supplements, at least those in the US, forefront’s NDT isn’t standardized so you don’t know what you’re getting for hormones from batch to batch, and if you noticed they have a note on the product page stating that it is intended as a dietary supplement. It’s like the thyroid supplement I tried back in 2019 from Professional Formulas. It has the same ingredients, the same bovine thyroid sourced from New Zealand etc. It was better than taking no thyroid at all when I was having daily convulsions and syncope, but it doesn’t compare to standardized NDT or synthetic thyroid like Cynoplus, IME. Not to trash their product, but one could get the same effect from broth made from fish heads or chicken necks with the thyroid glands intact as they do otc thyroid supplements, and for much cheaper.
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such large amounts of ttfd will deplete your glutathione stores extremely fast
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@lobotomize oxidized glutathione is le good
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@sunsunsun That's what happens when you let the french attempt to do science
