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      A Former User @A Former User
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      @mostlylurking

      Will a drug scale work? It’s pretty accurate. Crappy amazon micro scale thing

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        A Former User @A Former User
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        @questforhealth said in ADHD, Severe fatigue, digestion problems etc..:

        @mostlylurking

        Will a drug scale work? It’s pretty accurate. Crappy amazon micro scale thing

        Yes. I weighed out my 1 gram dose with a little digital scale like that and then I found a little spoon that would hold that amount. I tested it out a few times so I knew the little spoon holds exactly the right amount (it holds 500mg, I use two of them); so now I just use the little spoon, not the scale.

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          A Former User @A Former User
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          @mostlylurking

          That makes sense. Last time I felt good I had been taking 1 gram doses of thiamine every once in a while with b3 and methylene blue.

          Might be worth trying that again along with magnesium. I may well need it until I chelate my heavy metals.

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            A Former User @A Former User
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            @questforhealth said in ADHD, Severe fatigue, digestion problems etc..:

            I just took some down the hatch. Lost my scoop so I just put some on the top of a teaspoon.

            I HEAVILY suspect heavy metal problems. So probably should be doing thiamine.

            I'd like to add that Dr. Costantini advised to take your last dose for the day by 3:00pm. He said that if you take it late in the day that it can disturb your sleep. I think that the reason is that thiamine facilitates the burning of sugar for energy so it will make your blood sugar go down; if your blood sugar gets too low when you're sleeping, it will increase your adrenaline which will wake you up. If that happens and you want to go back to sleep, drink some orange juice with a pinch of salt or drink a glass of milk with a little sugar added (maybe 1 tablespoon to 10-12oz of milk).

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              Razvan @A Former User
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              @questforhealth
              Taurine should help for the digestion and also help utilize iron and copper better.
              Be carefull with too much B1, it's very good indeed, but can raise acetylcholine too much to the point of making your racing thoughts much worse. Keep in mind what you feel and be aware of your experience even tho it's crazy hard to focus when having low iron and/or low copper.

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                A Former User @Razvan
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                @Razvan

                I might try taurine. Yes the focus is insanely bad. It’s awful. Hopeful iron and thiamine will slowly improve this stuff.

                My skin is so pale and sticky recently. What on earth.

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                  A Former User @A Former User
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                  @questforhealth said in ADHD, Severe fatigue, digestion problems etc..:

                  @mostlylurking

                  That makes sense. Last time I felt good I had been taking 1 gram doses of thiamine every once in a while with b3 and methylene blue.

                  Might be worth trying that again along with magnesium. I may well need it until I chelate my heavy metals.

                  The magnesium is a very good idea; I use magnesium glycinate. I get my thiamine hcl from purebulk.com too.

                  Methylene blue is really an iffy thing to use (in my opinion). If you are thiamine deficient, you can't clear serotonin out of your brain. The effect is like taking an SSRI. Methylene blue acts as an MAO inhibitor and should not be taken if you are taking SSRIs.

                  Serotonin Syndrome and Thiamine: Is There a Connection?

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                    A Former User @A Former User
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                    @mostlylurking

                    Oh I’ve had weird serotonin stuff before.

                    If I eat the wrong thing I feel like i’m on an ssri. Serotonin overload.

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                    • RazvanR
                      Razvan @A Former User
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                      @questforhealth Keep focusing on what we spoke in the other thread and I guarantee you will see improvements. After the focus on iron, its better to focus on copper. There is a trend when raising iron, copper can get even lower and then a period with higher copper foods will be needed.

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                        Razvan @Razvan
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                        @Razvan Also having good thyroid function and good hormones will store less iron and preferably use it (that's what you need).

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                          A Former User @Razvan
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                          @Razvan

                          On a test my thyroid is good. But I do crave thyroid supplements. However I need to top up my vitamins first I imagine.

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                            Razvan @A Former User
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                            @questforhealth
                            What kind of iron supplement are you taking? How much? And how do you feel from it even tho its early to tell?

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                              A Former User @Razvan
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                              @Razvan

                              Floradix.. some german brand with some herbs and berry juice and b vitamins. Not the best but better than having crappy filler. 15mg iron a day.

                              I do feel a bit better and maybe walking slightly more straight. Slow to tell yet.

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                                A Former User @Razvan
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                                @Razvan said in ADHD, Severe fatigue, digestion problems etc..:

                                @questforhealth
                                Taurine should help for the digestion and also help utilize iron and copper better.
                                Be carefull with too much B1, it's very good indeed, but can raise acetylcholine too much to the point of making your racing thoughts much worse. Keep in mind what you feel and be aware of your experience even tho it's crazy hard to focus when having low iron and/or low copper.

                                Actually, thiamine (B1) modulates acetycholine (I think) so the body is less likely to get overloaded with acetylcholine if your thiamine is adequate for your needs. The action of thiamine is extremely broad and complex. The following article is really above my pay grade; I'll slog through it another day, when I'm not as tired.

                                Molecular mechanisms of the non-coenzyme action of thiamin in brain: biochemical, structural and pathway analysis
                                "Our interdisciplinary study shows that thiamin is not only a coenzyme for acetyl-CoA production, but also an allosteric regulator of acetyl-CoA metabolism including regulatory acetylation of proteins and acetylcholine biosynthesis. "

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                                  A Former User
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                                  This seems awesome. If I keep taking iron and thiamine and my digestion kicks back in and I can start eating high quality meat and organs... Lots of good stuff can happen surely.

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                                    A Former User @A Former User
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                                    @questforhealth said in ADHD, Severe fatigue, digestion problems etc..:

                                    @Razvan

                                    Floradix.. some german brand with some herbs and berry juice and b vitamins. Not the best but better than having crappy filler. 15mg iron a day.

                                    I do feel a bit better and maybe walking slightly more straight. Slow to tell yet.

                                    I want to voice a word of caution about supplementing with iron. If you are deficient in thiamine, your blood brain barrier can become compromised and the iron can get through it and into your brain and damage it.

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                                      A Former User @A Former User
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                                      @mostlylurking

                                      Aha! So stick to thiamine and magnesium for a start.

                                      I know thiamine can chelate excess iron out of the brain though. so no worries

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                                        Razvan @A Former User
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                                        @mostlylurking
                                        The study clearly mentions thiamine also increasing acetylcholine synthesis, but of course thiamine is extremly helpfull and there is even some studies showing that in low dosages increases acetylcholine while in high dosages lowers it due to restoration of the receptor.
                                        I was just making the OP aware of the symptoms.
                                        Thiamine could help ATP and improve hypoxic tendencies when anemic with low oxygenation. Helped with that for me in a similar situation.

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                                          A Former User @Razvan
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                                          @Razvan

                                          Do you feel good eating pork from healthy animals? I am considering trying for the thiamine..

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                                            Razvan @A Former User
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                                            @questforhealth
                                            Thiamine can chelate iron, but will not make you more anemic, it's not so strong in doing that as with aspirin and or vitamin E.

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