whats your opinion on taking kefir?
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@yerrag sort of off topic, but what combination of biofilm busters and antibiotics did you take? would you recommend taking them? have you experienced other, not directly stool related benefits?
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It's been awhile and I don't remember offhand the biofilm busters I used but I used the throw the kitchen sink approach using biofilm busters, so you can do a search for biofilm busters and buy what you can get your hands on and use them. I figure the more variety the better to handle all the biofilm the multiple types of bacteria make to protect themselves from antibiotics.
You will know it's working when you have diarrhea, as that shows your gut stew is now contaminated with dead anaerobic bacteria that is killed by exposure to oxygen when the biofilm is broken. You deal with the diarrhea using activated charcoal.
The use the antibiotics. I used doxycycline for two weeks, followed by amoxiclav for 2 weeks, and Zithromax for 7 weeks.
It was intended to target my internal colony of bacteria, but ended up doing a lot of work on my gut, especially the anaerobic ones. I used the research of RPF member Tarmander who had a podcast episode on antibiotics to make sure si don't pick any antibiotic that would leave terrible side effects that could be hell to dig out from.
Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
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@yerrag thanks, do you have any specific recommendations for biofilm busters? i see lots on amazon with loads of ingredients which makes me a bit wary. im in the uk btw
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I'll have to dig in to my old Chromebook and its bookmarks and get back to you, but yes, avoid the commercial stuff just the busters from nature such as herbs and some safe chemicals.
Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter -
This is the Quax podcast of Tarmander on antibiotics I listened to:
Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter -
@yerrag thank you
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@yerrag I found your thread on the old forum and this is what you said you were taking as biofilm busters (in a reply to "The Law and Order Admin" lol)
"I'm taking a blend of berberine extract, rhubarb extract, and chitosan in a ratio of 3:3:1. Split into 3 doses, I take them about 30 minutes after each meal, mixed in water."
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@jhp Glad you found it. It's a nice blend using herbal and natural ingredients. It's my preferred approach, but on the antibacterial end, as opposed to the biofilm busting end of things, I went at that time with pharma antibiotics. I was just glad it turned out well. Though I always wondered what herbs or natural substances I would use in place of the antibiotics.
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I’ve heard oil of oregano is very powerful.
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@RawGoatMilk88 That one is good. Mike Fave recommended that to me as well.
