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Bulk and hormonal support for intense training

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    jakeseeds
    last edited by Dec 30, 2024, 6:17 PM

    I am currently training for professional baseball and seeking advice on my protocol for muscle gain, energy and hormonal optimization.

    I am about 6’5 215 and 21 years old at the moment and have an intense training schedule where I lift 4 days a week and practice 4-5+ days a week. Would love to put on another 20+ pounds while I keep getting stronger. I am relatively new to the community and brand new to this forum. Playing around with the diet has been really fun as I can try things I’d never expect to try and gain weight, heavy cream, condensed milk, milk, lots of orange juice etc. I like the idea of getting just enough protein in for growth (100-140g?) and using the rest of my calories to fuel the process.

    Just a day ago I started taking androsterone and pansterone and tocovit, interested to see how those make me feel.

    Overall I’d love opinions on what I can adjust or add or remove from my protocol to optimize the growth process through diet and hormones (without anabolic steroids).

    Thank you all

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      LucH
      last edited by LucH Dec 30, 2024, 6:48 PM Dec 30, 2024, 6:47 PM

      Hi, welcome.
      Rather alternate one day with power lifting and one day with endurance.
      Need to heal and consolidate the muscle after heavy exercise.
      2.2 g / kg for protein => 1.1 g / Lb.
      You'll probably need enzymes to assimilate a lot of proteins if > 35 g protein if not accustomed.
      Note: I'm not a reference. just what I've read from specialized fora.
      PS: If you don't want to convert carbs into fat, you'll have to optimize fibers (30 g) and have a lot of potassium (to help glycemia).
      Potassium bicarbonate 1.2 g by take will help to keep acid-base balance under focus. once a day.
      And probably magnesium bisglycinate too if you stress because you're not going to make muscles if you stress. Take Mg after, not before a stressful event.
      Hope it can help. 😉

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        jakeseeds @LucH
        last edited by Dec 30, 2024, 7:03 PM

        @LucH Thank you! My training schedule is pretty set but I alternate Between upper and lower body so I’m Lifting same muscle group like once every three days if not more break. So i Have to prioritize rest and recovery and minimize stress.
        Would having 1-2 bananas And lots of potatoes Be sufficient for the potassium?
        I do take Mg and L-theanine before bed usually

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          LucH @jakeseeds
          last edited by Dec 30, 2024, 7:31 PM

          @jakeseeds said in Bulk and hormonal support for intense training:

          Would having 1-2 bananas And lots of potatoes Be sufficient for the potassium?
          I do take Mg and L-theanine before bed usually

          Ok then. but 2x fèces a day if regular starch food (stagnation is bad for bacterial flora).

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            jakeseeds @LucH
            last edited by Dec 30, 2024, 7:45 PM

            @LucH I actually have an ostomy bag after suffering from ulcerative colitis. Lost 100 pounds from September to March of this previous year and had my colon removed in February. Gained it all back by now

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              DavidPS @jakeseeds
              last edited by Dec 31, 2024, 3:55 PM

              @jakeseeds said in Bulk and hormonal support for intense training:

              @LucH I actually have an ostomy bag after suffering from ulcerative colitis. Lost 100 pounds from September to March of this previous year and had my colon removed in February. Gained it all back by now

              I am a proponent of the idea that what you do not measure you do not improve.

              Not to rain on your parade, but when you lose a lot of weight rapidly the weight loss is generally about 30% muscle. It happens with bariatric surgery, long term fasting and biggest loser types of competitions.

              I have used a biometric scale since November 2020. I have put on 16.8 lbs of muscle mass since then and the details are automatically graphed in my phone. My fat mass has also increased; but no specifics in this thread. 😞

              Scales are sold on line on places like amazon.com and are referred to as smart scales. You can purchase one for less than $30.

              ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
              ☂️

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                DavidPS
                last edited by Dec 31, 2024, 4:19 PM

                FYI
                https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/3708/impacts-of-protein-quantity-and-distribution-on-body-composition

                ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
                ☂️

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