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    Best Soccer player in history was hypothyroid

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      lobotomize-me @DKJoeAgain
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      @DKJoeAgain He was the best in almost every metric other than assisting (and he may even excel in that metric as well). Still, as humanity and as a community, isn't our goal to create a consistent way of mimicking this so-called "giftedness"?

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        lobotomize-me @NoeticJuice
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        @NoeticJuice But as I said, he didn’t have the amount of practice we assume is required, so there must be some other factor that helped him beat and humiliate healthier and more disciplined competition

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          NoeticJuice @lobotomize-me
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          @lobotomize-me said in Best Soccer player in history was hypothyroid:

          he didn’t have the amount of practice we assume is required

          I don't assume much practice is needed.

          Total energy availability, energy allocation and efficiency are the more general terms. The details that are involved in these are things such as hormones and myelination. I don't know all the details involved.

          As for what causes a specific configuration of those three, I don't know. But some things that are probably involved are genes, prenatal influences, life experiences, motivation, diet and the like.

          I remember reading not long ago from The Master and His Emissary that people who are exceptionally good at what they do access more right brain functions when doing what they're good at compared to other people. I tried to search for the page to quote it here, but I couldn't find it. I did find this though:

          • "In fact, recent research from Gazzaniga's own lab shows it to be the more reliable and insightful partner, and another recent study collating the areas of damage associated with a drop in IQ following a stroke showed them to be almost entirely in the right hemisphere of the brain." (new expanded edition, p. xiv)

          The book Return to the Brain of Eden also looks into the right hemisphere's involvement in sports in the chapter Drugs, the Brain, and Peak Experiences in the section Superman and Superwoman.


          It didn't occur to me to mention this earlier, but structure is also involved. For example, some people's brains can be structured in unusual ways, which can lead to unusual abilities, disabilities or both at the same time.

          But if we include structure perhaps efficiency doesn't need to be mentioned separately. Afaik, it's the change in structure which leads to improved or decreased efficiency.

          --> Total energy availability, energy allocation and structure

          "We must remember that the only instrument of investigation we possess is our mind . . . The quality and condition of the telescope govern the observation resulting from its use. If there is dust on our lens, we see dark spots in the heavens."

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            Luke
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            I know genetic talk isn't super popular in the Ray Peat sphere, but Ronaldo was a unique player with strengths that you either cannot learn, learn in childhood or can improve - but not to a huge extent. His combination of strength, speed and ball control was pretty unique and he could easily have been the GOAT, if he would have had 80% of the work ethic, motivation and obsession of the other Ronaldo (Cristiano). He also had a great football IQ. Many athletes are dumb as an empty rain barrell in real life, but have very high football/basketball etc. IQ.

            I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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              16charactersitis @evan.hinkle
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              @evan-hinkle every body gets corrupted, every body gets sick at some point. but in their prime very few excel to the point of raising the bar for the rest of us

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                evan.hinkle @16charactersitis
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                @16charactersitis I guess it’s just a matter of preference. I don’t see any positive contribution to society from sport personally, so for me there’s no greatness inspired. To each their own.

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                  eduardo-crispino @evan.hinkle
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                  @evan-hinkle how are sports not generally positive

                  are u one of those bread and circus is le bad niggas

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                    evan.hinkle @eduardo-crispino
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                    @eduardo-crispino i guess it’s just not for me. Doesn’t interest me, seems kinda destructive, but like whatever you like.

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                      16charactersitis @evan.hinkle
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                      @evan-hinkle you don’t even enjoy engaging in any sport personally? not even dance or basketball one on one for example? It can be elevated to an art. I agree simple running or swimming laps can be dulling.

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                        evan.hinkle @16charactersitis
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                        @16charactersitis I’ve been trying to teach my children how to throw a frisbee lately, maybe that counts?

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                          16charactersitis @evan.hinkle
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                          @evan-hinkle sure does. A boomerang would be fine too

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                            Luke @evan.hinkle
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                            @evan-hinkle said in Best Soccer player in history was hypothyroid:

                            @16charactersitis I’ve been trying to teach my children how to throw a frisbee lately, maybe that counts?

                            If they have mastered the frisbee you can register them at a table tennis club. The frisbee motion is like the backhand topspin motion in table tennis.

                            I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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