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    • buckminsterB
      buckminster
      last edited by buckminster

      What are folks thoughts on the dangers of the full-body scanner? Do ya opt for a pat down? What have been your experiences?

      I rarely travel and am typically trying to get through security as fast as possible, but every time I go through the scanner I feel tired. Last time I asked for a pat down, but I was informed I would have to wait for a police officer to be available for a pat down, and they made it seem like I was being a huge pain in their ass. I decided I hate cops more than radiation - pick your poison I guess.

      Besides while waiting you have to chill in the emf'ed zone.

      In a rainmaker time peat interview, Ray mentioned he stopped flying after 9/11 due to the changes in airport security.

      What can be done to mitigate the harmful effects?

      "People need to start understanding that the system is systematically murdering them, and understanding that the situation is desperate, they need to see that solidarity with life, against capital, is their hope." RP

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      • bradB
        brad @buckminster
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        @buckminster The vibe in airports is off, but if you must travel I would recommend getting TSA Pre-Check or Global Entry. You only have to go through the metal detector most of the time. If I get randomly screened for the full-body scanner I try to opt for the pat-down.

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        • JulofEnochJ
          JulofEnoch @brad
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          @brad

          Pre-check gang.

          Greift nur hinein ins volle Menschenleben! Ein jeder lebt's, nicht vielen ist's bekannt, und wo ihr's packt, da ist's interessant.

          Ray Peat first-ever interview(July 1987 on UofO Student Radio)

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          • buckminsterB
            buckminster @JulofEnoch
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            Fuck people just pay more money to not get irradiated. This is just for the poors? Amazing. Thanks for the probably obvious tip. I'ma pay for pre check for my flight.

            "People need to start understanding that the system is systematically murdering them, and understanding that the situation is desperate, they need to see that solidarity with life, against capital, is their hope." RP

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            • JulofEnochJ
              JulofEnoch @buckminster
              last edited by

              @buckminster

              @brad gave good advice to look into TSA pre-check or global entry. If you're non-US, idk what equivalents you'd have.

              As to the scanner, it depends on the type you're exposed to. I googled to make sure but there's millimeter-wave, x-ray, and infrared.

              Millimeter wave EMF is partially absorbed in the skin but magnetic effects permeate deeper into the body with effects shown clearly in rodents Martin Pall, btw, is a retired biochem professor who did research into EMF effects.

              The x-ray scanners have very low radiation exposures but if you've had x-rays or other significant radiation exposures recently, then you're looking at even the minor scan dose being an upset.

              Infrared uses heat differences from skin warming vs contraband warming. This is by far the safest as it emits no energy and only absorbs.

              I've always felt bad going through airport security and especially tired once in the full-body scanner. I hesitate to chalk it up to biological effects as once I'm out of the cattle line then I feel much better and with TSA pre-check I feel much better going through security. TSA security is really bad at their jobs of finding contraband, weapons, etc. but really good at holding up the line and acting like you are the problem- if you believe in auras and energies, then there's bad vibes with airport security.

              Greift nur hinein ins volle Menschenleben! Ein jeder lebt's, nicht vielen ist's bekannt, und wo ihr's packt, da ist's interessant.

              Ray Peat first-ever interview(July 1987 on UofO Student Radio)

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              • bradB
                brad @buckminster
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                @buckminster It's like $80 for 5 years, so it does cost more but not incredibly cost prohibitive if you're someone who flies regularly.

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                • BuckianB
                  Buckian
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                  @buckminster My wife and I ask for pat down every time (not USA). My experience is if you’re happy and confident - as well as understanding that it’s an inconvenience - then it goes by fine.

                  Obviously you can get a moody person but if you remind yourself that it’s your right and that you’re not responsible for their emotions you should be fine!

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                  • KvirionK
                    Kvirion @buckminster
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                    @buckminster said in Airport Security Radiation Mitigation:

                    What are folks thoughts on the dangers of the full-body scanner? Do ya opt for a pat down? What have been your experiences?
                    [...]
                    What can be done to mitigate the harmful effects?

                    From (old) RPF
                    Inosine, niacinamide, aspirin, caffeine, thyroid, methylene blue, tocopherols, progesterone, DHEA, etc. are all known radioprotectors. Ideally, they should be taken both before and after radiation exposure. When I got dental X-rays, I took 1g inosine and 1g niacinamide 1h before and then the same dose 1h after the X-rays. But even doing only before/after would be beneficial and if I had to choose between the two, I would take those before exposure. ~Georgi Dinkov

                    A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
                    Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
                    There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
                    And drinking largely sobers us again.
                    ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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