Any recommended works on the practice of sex?
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The literature available on sex in the common consciousness is not very good.
I find that they're often written with some kind of therapyspeak, new-age style, that they tend to overemphasize the role of the clitoris in orgasm (vs. cervical fornices, which barely even exist in the reddit-sphere), and even recommend that men practice cunnilingus, which seems wrong.
Ray Peat himself had some interesting content on sexuality in "Mind and Tissue", somewhat in line with Evola, describing the process of sex beyond just the mere reproductive aspects, as working to express experiences (e.g., the experience of being male or female). I don't think he's written that much about it besides that.
Is there any literature that this board recommends on the subjects?
The most interesting thing I've seen on the subject is this:
https://summit.sfu.ca/_flysystem/fedora/2023-02/etd22010.pdf#page=161Other subjects of interest include the differences between adrenaline sex and oxytocin sex, tantra, etc.
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@foobarbaazquux The "practice of sex" is something that's meant to be lived and its only known in the experiencing of it. The important thing is to lead from your desire, have fun and don't be boring. Esoterisms and occultisms of sexuality come often to the divine androgyne (i.e. reconciliation of polarities through immediate transcendent principle) and transmutation (i.e redirection of attention to higher circuits/activities).
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@jwayne Your answer is analogous to the idea of "Perceive, Think, and Act". Going from there, though, there are also defined principles moving towards a general goal of "more and faster" (metabolic rate, brain activity, etc), and a means of achieving them (increase thyroid, glucose, calcium, measure temperature, etc).
What is the analogous goal and specific practice(s) when it comes to sex?
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@RawGoatMilk88 I would need a very good reason to read books lauding an objective failure.
"Where do correct ideas come from? Do they drop from the skies? No. Are they innate in the mind? No. They come from social practice, and from it alone; they come from three kinds of social practice, the struggle for production, the class struggle and scientific experiment. It is man’s social being that determines his thinking."
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What do you deem an objective failure?
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If you’re looking for a more communist ethos book on sex you should read “Communism: how to breed the ugliest hoards of human waste”
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@foobarbaazquux I'm not sure exactly what you are aiming at. You can do things to increase libido but that will come at the cost of being unable focus on anything else. You can also decrease libido but that will have a similar downside of being unable to perform and likewise missing out on all the associated joys.
Life passes in seasons. Identify (i.e. by your age) the season of life you are in and then do the natural things to be wholesome and healthy, like connecting with the earth and other humans rather than digital hallucinations. Romance is being present, playful, silly, fun but also sincere, polite and so on. I don't think there are separate principles for sex than there are for, say, friendship. The idea is authenticity and connection. Ideally it involves a participation of higher emotions and that transforms our other faculties - colors become brighter, our steps become lighter and we seem to be making special memories everywhere, etc.
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@RawGoatMilk88 said in Any recommended works on the practice of sex?:
@foobarbaazquux
If you’re looking for a more communist ethos book on sex you should read “Communism: how to breed the ugliest hoards of human waste”
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that sounds fascinating, where can i get it? my search engine didnt deliver any results
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Trotskyists (who, if you read Goebbels' diaries, actually worked alongside the Nazis against Stalin) do tend to be visibly unwell, I'll give you that.
@jwayne I tend to think of friendship more so within the terms of having shared Work, shared Labor, to do, and less so the more nebulous "authenticity and connection". In other words, "authenticity and connection" necessarily has a specific shape. The former has real content: like a university fraternity whose "brothers" actually try to help each other out in the real world, versus some guy you knock back beers with on a monthly basis. And sexual relationships are in a similar way. Aimlessness in life's Labor is a key factor behind the failure of sexual relationships or marriages, even when there might be a solid and authentic connection, it will deteriorate unless there is shared vision towards the future, where Labor is the process of getting there.
But I do appreciate your comment on color perception, that's something I've noticed.
For those following along, outside of this thread I've begun to read a bit of Wilhem Reich, as mentioned by Peat in GE #27:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genitality_in_the_Theory_and_Therapy_of_Neurosis
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I've been an expert on sex for many years now. Mainly for men. My book Masculine Maximizer will be out very soon on Amazon. Meanwhile feel free to post any question for me to laugh at and judge you. I mean, help you with. Humor.
I had no idea about sex when I started this journey. Everything we are taught about sex, or discover, is 90% wrong. Without being New Age about it, sex is the gateway to happiness and contentment and longevity.
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@Ecstatic_Hamster said in Any recommended works on the practice of sex?:
I've been an expert on sex for many years now.
Funniest thing I've read all day. Thank you.
Maybe the trick is not to be "taught" at all.
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@ThinPicking great!
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I'm looking forward to the book.
sex is the gateway to happiness and contentment and longevity.
What is the relationship between the mechanics of sex (genital friction, etc) and the radical changes in life outlook that it can produce? How does it all reconcile with sex for reproduction vs. for its own sake?
Something I have been thinking about is the relationship between the nerves, brain, and genitals. Could it be the case that there is a literal transmission of experienced information occurring between brains through the nerves and genitals by this mechanism during sex? As such, why does it feel "good'? What does it mean for it to feel "good", is it the result of integration of nervous activity? It might be aligned with theories I've seen lying around lately about how the quality of orgasm relates to the quality of children.
If this theory is true (in any respect), then I theorize it would make it important to have proper contact with upper-vaginal/cervical structures (such as fornices), which are more centrally enervated, hence the "whole-body" feeling that such stimulation tends to produce in women. Conversely, "sex acts" which do not go there might be considered as masturbatory, insofar as they do not generate proper nervous feedback loops between equipositioned tissues: like should be to like. Missionary position might be considered superior in this regard to others as it matches together enervated body structures.
It would also account some for the act of kissing, which is otherwise mysterious: it is the contact of highly enervated tissues. Perhaps study of electromagnetic field effects in the body, which Regime Science has generally buried in the name of serving microwave-link video to many users, could shed light on this topic.
It really might not be out of the question due to the possibility of electromagnetic induction between nerves in different bodies: current creates fields and fields create current. It may account for what sexologists describe as the depression generally felt after masturbation vs. sex: the lack of electromagnetic induction from the other body.
Any thoughts or comments?
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@foobarbaazquux Very thoughtful questions.
The Tantric tradition believes in polarity during intercourse, with penis into vagina energy flowing into the woman, up through her breasts into the man (assuming Missionary) and down again. Sex is always recirculation of energy between partners. Heterosexual is ideal flow, but it can flow in gay sex in some way too.
The mistake we make in sex is viewing it as an act of climbing a hill and then falling down the other side. Get to the PONR and the orgasm. It’s the Big O, that’s what it’s about.
When I was little, Christmas would come and there was a huge hullabaloo about it…and a huge build up. Then the day was there, and it was quickly over. I wondered what the fuss was about.
That’s an orgasm. 15 seconds of incredible pleasure, sure, but then it’s over.
With recirculating energies, with dwelling inside her, I can have sex for hours, and then be ready again. I’m always ready.
And I am so in love with my partner, I am so full of love for her, it is always spilling over. And her love is like that for me (although different of course as she’s not me). This is the most incredible feeling in life.
For men, sex can be an extraordinary source of energy and power and joy and achievement. I have learned how to have hours of orgasmic pleasure, either with her or by myself.
For women of course it can be equally great, but it is quite different. It is a source of faminine power, and if you look carefully you notice that behind the scenes, women run everything. That’s why they live longer than men do. They don’t have all the striving and competition men have. Just let the men go through alll that. Women are often smarter than men and enjoy life more by doing less.
That is basically what my book explains how to do and how to become.
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@Ecstatic_Hamster is it possible to be healthy and bang different women? the reactionary take on contenporary loose culture is to get a tradwife . i think possibly being intimate with multiple women is an option
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@sneedful said in Any recommended works on the practice of sex?:
@Ecstatic_Hamster is it possible to be healthy and bang different women? the reactionary take on contenporary loose culture is to get a tradwife . i think possibly being intimate with multiple women is an option
It is quite possible. Of course it is.
Probably 10 - 15% of men are not monogamous types at all.
I do think that once you go down this road, you get very attached to one person and just can’t get enough of them. But that doesn’t mean you don’t have sex with other women, necesssarily. It isn’t something I want to do but I completely understand it.
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I’m always ready.
What of the female menstrual cycle, what is the effect on all of this?
Does the "energy flow" have a purpose beyond itself?
Are there implications for more correct physical acts?
Is there any relation between this process or conception, or are they instead incidental? If yes, what is the effect?
What is the cause of the fact that most concepts of sex today (90%, you said) are wrong?
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@foobarbaazquux said in Any recommended works on the practice of sex?:
I’m always ready.
What of the female menstrual cycle, what is the effect on all of this?
Does the "energy flow" have a purpose beyond itself?
Are there implications for more correct physical acts?
Is there any relation between this process or conception, or are they instead incidental? If yes, what is the effect?
What is the cause of the fact that most concepts of sex today (90%, you said) are wrong?
I don't think menstruation affects this really. When my partner was still menstruating we just used that time to have unprotected intercourse because otherwise I used condoms for birth control.
Condoms suck bigtime for this type of sex but they can be used. They do interfere with the energy flow.
I'm not sure how this may relate to conception. When we had our children I wasn't practicing this way.
The cause of 90% info being wrong is that there are so many forces in our world that benefit from our sexual energy dissipating, especially male sexual energy. Masculinity is said to be toxic, and T levels have dropped like a stone as TPTB encourage men to be alone on their phone, masturbating instead of having partner sex.
The so-called gurus all talk about more and more extreme sex acts and the answer to sexual boredom is "spice it up, try something new" but that quickly gets old too. Relationships are always, always, always dying from the wrong type of sex, because nature causes us to be attracted to novel partners and to become bored with our partner. The negative fallout from sex is never discussed.
But in this type of sex I practice, it just is so great, so amazing you never get tired of it or of your partner. It keeps getting better. It is a program that is in our brains to run, but we don't run it because we don't know it exists.
