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Things took a turn for the better this week after my depressive episode on Monday.
I started taking 1 drop of 11 Keto DHT in the morning and evening on Tuesday.
The DHT brought me back to life. I felt a much welcome increase in aggression and dissatisfaction with my current circumstances.
I think my depressive episode was just a withdrawal symptom of my addiction. I've been clean for 4 weeks now. What I have noticed in the past is that my brain and body try to make me feel as miserable as possible until I break and give in to the urge to watch porn. I'm very happy that I've been able to stay strong. In the past, these depressive episodes usually lasted much longer until I got weak again.

Because I felt so good again, I had trouble falling asleep, which is something I'm used to from the past.
I had to take a sleeping pill to fall asleep on Wednesday and had a bit of brain fog the next day. I also had a persistent headache so I skipped the DHT and Thursday.
Thursday night I couldn't fall asleep again so I took 2 drops of Cypro on my navel and to my surprise the effects were much more pleasant than the first time I took it 2 months ago. It didn't make me as lethargic and apathetic as the first time.
I think Cypro can become a good alternative for me if I have trouble falling asleep in the future.
I also remember talking to Danny Roddy about my negative experience with it and he told me that he usually sees people benefit more from it when their metabolism is better and they're not running on stress hormones, so I think that's a good sign.
Thanks to @josh I have been able to get my glucose up to about 150 grams a day. My energy is much more stable, I'm able to get more done and I can plan better for the future because of it.

The only downside is that I get a bit of stomach ache and bloating, but that's a price I'm willing to pay.

My libido is still pretty non-existent at the moment. I have no morning wood and no erections during the day.
This is probably also a symptom of the addiction. In addict circles this is known as flatline and is a fairly common side effect of quitting.

Grüezi @Luke yes i'm from the german speaking part of switzerland

No, I usually don't feel hungry when I wake up at night.
I haven't really noticed a pattern to my night waking. 18:30 is the time I usually try to have dinner, but I have also had night wakes when I have had dinner later, or when I have had a big glass of chocolate milk (or some cheese and honey) before going to bed.
I'm usually not really hungry when I wake up in the morning either. That's why I only have coffee first thing and then a regular breakfast about 2 hours later.

In my experience, adding the aspirin helped me to get more consistency in my sleep. I wake up less in the middle of the night. I suspect this is because it helps to reduce inflammation and perhaps my inflammation or the stress it causes was what was waking me up. Especially as sleeping puts a lot of stress on the joints. I also used to have a lot of night sweats, now that I think about it. That has pretty much stopped too.

Your comment about the PUFA in eggs is very interesting. I hadn't actually considered that. But I think my PUFA intake is still a lot lower than it was in the past when I was cooking with vegetable oil and eating foods that had PUFA's listed as one of the nutrients. Or I was eating out on a regular basis, which I almost completely avoid now.
Do you think the benefits of the nutrients in eggs outweigh the harm of the PUFAs?

@CO3
Do you mind sharing the recipe used for the pancakes?

@josh thanks for sharing your thoughts! it definately does feel like i'm on the right track and i've already made a huge amount of improvements when i look back what has happend and changed in the past 12 months.
This is also my way on how i try to contribute to this forum. I have a hard time understanding all the complex mechanisms on how everything in the body works since english is not my first language and biology not really my strength but maybe sharing my story can help others who've had similar experiences in the past.

Regarding the supplements, i would say that my diet is already pretty good with eating mostly raw milk, ground beef, rice, potatoes, carrots, fresh orange juice, lots of eggs, collagen, no pufa, cheese, oyster and occasional liver and no alcohol. So i don't really know on how else i can improve on the diet side of things appart from screwing with the macro ratio and possibly the timing of the different macros (when to consume protein/fat and carbs and in what amount).

I do understand how T3 could possibly screw one up if the diet would be shit and one doesn't supply the body with the right food. However i think i do supply my body with a lot of nutrition so i'm willing to take the risk on it.
If one doesn't supplement with T3 while being hypothyroid then would there ever be a right time to supplement it? For me that doesn't make sense currently.

Question regarding your glucose intake: Is glucose the only carb you eat currently? How do you combat the decreased appetite from it? And when is the last time you take glucose before going to sleep so it doesn't keep you awake? How long did your body take to adjust to taking higher amounts of glucose? And how much B1 are you taking and in what form?

Small update:
The last 3 days on glucose have been really interesting.
I took about 60 grams on Saturday, 90 grams on Sunday and today I'm sitting at 40 grams.

I am definitely feeling the effects of the increased metabolism with higher temperatures and more sweating.
The first day felt almost like taking amphetamines. I was very sluggish and full of brain fog and the brain fog went away almost immediately and I haven't been as alert and focused as I have been in a long time. I did have some problems with crashing sometimes, which I am trying to reduce by taking more frequent doses.
My joints were also more aching the first 2 days, but it was better by day 3.

I think my sleep suffered a bit. While my sleep was long and uninterrupted, I had trouble getting into deep and REM sleep according to my whoop.
What was also really interesting is that yesterday I played a very intense 90 minute paddle session. During this session my average heart rate was significantly lower than it usually is when I play paddle, so the strain that the training put on my body was significantly reduced and I was able to have more consistent energy throughout the game, whereas in the past I really struggled to keep the focus high after the first 45 minutes.
In the evening my stomach was a bit upset and I had very little appetite so I took a few hits of a very weak weed so I could eat something.
My HFV also dropped by 25%.

Today I had a very intense and exhausting depressive episode. I will try to go to the gym in the evening to counteract it.

@mavuue said in Get healthy or die trying..:

@NokiaDrift A word of caution with the androsterone, read my post at -

https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/3204/shill-me-your-favorite-idealabs-products-for-energy-and-vitality/2?_=1728897284925

Interesting, thanks! I'm also very torn about androsterone. On the one hand I feel like it gave me a very nice androgen boost and I had a few days where I felt really masculine and confident on it. But I am also experiencing an extraordinary amount of ED and low libido, which I suspect is also caused by it, and which continues even after I stop taking it.
I feel like I have somehow become addicted to the calm it gives me, which has been a nice change after the years of ups and downs of my porn addiction.

I will probably add Test Cream and DHT Cream to the mix soon which will hopefully give me a libido boost combined with more androgens/better mood/confidence.
I'm going to Thailand for the month of January and I want to find a mix that makes me feel like the good days on androsterone without the shutdown of libido and ED.

I also spoke to my therapist today and he diagnosed me with depression and recommended I take SSRIs. But judging from how i felt on androsterone, a little push from additional test and dht is possibly all that i need to turn my life around.

@Peatful said in Get healthy or die trying..:

You are hypothyroid
Nothing too complicated here

Your prolactin is high
Your igf1 is too of course (too much protein I assume)
You’re in a stressed metabolic state

Ive never seen someone supplement their way out of hypothyroidism
While healing - I see most of them cause potential confusion

Ley food be thy medicine and medicine by thy food

Thanks for your comment!
With supplements causing confusion does that include T3?
Can you give me a brief rundown of what you would suggest for me to focus on?

Hello everyone.

For those interested, I will share my journey to health (or death), whichever comes first.

Some stats about me:
Male
27 years old
181cm tall
Skinny/Athletic Build (Hardgainer)
Current as of 10/12/24: about 76kg
Body Fat: 9%-10%

Backstory:
My parents split up when I was 5 and I grew up with my mom and my brother, visiting my dad every other weekend. When I was 10, I was first introduced to porn, which led to a heavy porn addiction for the rest of my life. Like any addiction, it got worse over the years and I had to mix more and more substances with porn to get the same kick.
Sports have always been a great passion of mine and I like to play pretty much any sport. I played soccer until I was 15 and then switched to fitness.
When I was 18, I was interested in getting into AAS, but being a pussy, I didn't want to inject myself with a needle. So I did some research and I stumbled across a study that found that just taking an AI without additional test was able to increase free testosterone in a vareity of healthy males. So I ordered some Nolvadex online and I took a pill. Pretty much immediately after taking the pill I felt like my whole body was rusting. I could hardly move my joints. Of course I immediately stopped taking Nolvadex but the damage was already done. I developed chronic inflammation in both my shoulders and my hip. First I got diagnosed with shoulder impingement, and hernia and later on this diagnosis got changed to Polly arthrithis. Since that incident, my life has changed forever. I did every therapy under the sun, went to different doctors, physios, chiropractors, TCM, alternative medicine, but nothing really worked.
It wasn't pleasant, but I was still able to maintain a regular workout routine and a physique that 90% of the healthy people among my peers couldn't achieve, until things took a turn for the worse.

In early 2020 I met my new girlfriend. Her father died early in her life and her mother abused her. So I took her out of the house and let her move in with me pretty quickly. This was my downfall. The frequent touching + sharing a bed with someone made my inflammation spiral completely out of control and I could barely sleep.
I went to my rheumatologist and started a therapy with the drug Methotrexate, which I had refused a year before. She told me that this drug helps 90% of people with arthritis, and since my inflammation had become unmanageable, I didn't see any other option at that point. With this drug you have to inject the substance once a week and the effects of it only start to show after about 3 months and the drugs have to be taken for years.
So I took the drug hoping that my pain would get better and it completely obliterated me. I lost all my muscles, I lost my hair, I lost any sense of self, I was an empty shell, a walking zombie and this in the time span of 3 months, so obviously I stopped the therapy because any possible positive effects it might have were not worth the side effects.
While doing the therapy I also got the covid shot because I was a high risk patient, which is probably the single biggest regret I have in my life.
My bad health also had a negative effect on my relationship because I wasn't the energetic and funny person I was when we first met.
We broke up and I moved out of the house.
I decided to focus on myself and fix myself before starting a new relationship.

I went on a vegan diet, which helped me get off my anti-inflammatory medication (Arcoxia) that I've been on for the past few years.
While on the vegan diet, I had a lot of problems with bloating and gas, as well as very unstable energy and severe brain fog. My mood swings were so bad that I felt like I was bipolar. And every time I relapsed into my porn addiction, the inflammation would flare up in a big way for the next few days.
I was suicidal. So in the middle of 2023 I decided to fulfill a dream I had for a long time before I ended my life, and that was to spend part of the winter (which is very long and depressing in Switzerland) in Asia. I talked to my boss about it and was able to take 3 1/2 weeks off in mid-January 2024. I booked an airbnb in Bangkok for a month and decided to just take it from there. I didn't have the energy for more than that and I also didn't want to stress my body with traveling a lot because that always makes the inflammation flare up big time. I also decided that I would not go vegan on my vacation and just eat whatever I felt like.
I ate a lot of meat, rice, eggs, milk, pad thais and to my surprise my inflammation didn't get worse, it actually got better. I also had a very cool gym on the 42nd floor of my condo with an amazing view of Bangkok and I finally fell back in love with the gym and more importantly my life.
I also had major spiritual breakthroughs in Bangkok that helped me process some of my past traumas.

Back in Switzerland, I began to process my experiences and came to the conclusion that everything I thought I knew about health and life in general was a lie. So I did what any sane person would do, a complete 180. I went on the carnivore diet in April 2024, getting only a small amount of carbohydrates from raw milk and honey. While my brain fog improved and my mood stabilized tremendously, my sleep suffered greatly. I was waking up between 3 and 4 every night.
I also tracked my vitals with Whoop and my HFV dropped tremendously. I decided to reintroduce sugar in the form of honey and fruit into my diet and my energy levels got better and I didn't wake up in the middle of the night as much as I used to.
I also added aspirin, collagen, vitamin K, B3, TMG, D3 and electrolytes to my routine.
While my health, energy and inflammation have improved, I am still far from feeling like my old self. I still suffer from low energy, brain fog, ED, low libido, major depressive episodes, and never feel refreshed in the morning after I wake up. I also have headaches about once a week that last all day.

I used to be a goal getter (I know that sounds kind of ridiculous after the whole paragraph above). I've lost the spark, but that's okay, I've started to accept who I am at this point in time.
I'm in the process of trying different things and seeing what works best for me. I placed an order with idealabs for Tyrone, Cyproheptadine, Pansterone and Androsterone.
I didn't feel much of the T3, but the dosing was also a bit too much of a hassle with the bottle, so I probably wasn't dosing on a regular enough basis.
The Cypro made me tired but very apathic the next day and the apathic feeling is something I struggle with enough already.
I really enjoyed the Pansterone and Androsterone. It made me more aggressive, more confident, increased my beard growth, and somehow my urge to watch porn has almost completely disappeared since I started taking it. Interestingly enough, some days my mood was really good, other days I was very depressed, but the depressive episodes are much more manageable than they used to be. In the past, they would be completely overwhelming and last a few days in a row.
Recently I also got some 11-Keto DHT and 6-Keto P4 as well as Progest-E and T3 as Cynomel.
I started meassuring my temperature and it's usually between 34.3- 35.1 degrees upon waking up and 34.7- 35.4 degrees in the afternoon and my pulse is about 65 upon waking up.

A usual routine: (ofc I don't eat exactly like this every day)
08:00 / 1 big cup of coffee in the morning with 10g collagen, 2g taurine, 5g creatine, milk, butter and raw honey. and 6mcg T3, 4mg DHEA, 4mg pregnenolone, 2mg androsterone (Sometimes I drink a big cup of fresh orange juice with it) and 650mg calcium.
11:00 / Breakfast with 5 eggs, bacon, parmesan cheese and dates, raw carrot and 6mcg T3
14:00 / Shake with 5 eggs, honey, chocolate powder and raw milk and 6mcg T3
18:30 / Ground beef with potatoes or rice and 6mcg T3
21:30 / 6g glycin, 500mg aspirin, vitamin K and 650mg calcium.

I work out at the gym about 1-2 times a week and I play paddle tennis about 2-3 times a week which I started playing 2 months ago and is a miracle in itself as doctors and physio's told me that I would never be able to play stop and go sports again with my arthrithis.

Today i also got my order for dextrose after reading the glucose loading cures everything thread and watching dr stephans talk about it on yt.
I took my first 25g dose 4 hours ago and another 20g dose 1 hour ago and tbh.. it's fucking magical. I have been very tired all day and now I feel like I can take on the world again. I haven't felt this focused in years.
I will be incorporating large doses of glucose into my routine from now on.

I have attached my latest blood test. Please feel free to share your comments about it if something stands out to you.

Anyone who wants to follow my journey is welcome, and if you have any questions I'll be happy to try to answer them.
I will use this log now and in the future to track my changes and progress so that I have something to look back on in a few years.

My biggest problems at the moment:

• Low temperature
• Low libido
• Occasional diarrhea
• Depressive episodes
• Not having consistent energy throughout the day
• Sleep problems (difficulty falling asleep/ waking up in the middle of the night or very early and not feeling refreshed)
• Chronically stuffed nose

Next Goals:

• Read "How to Heal Your Metabolism" by Kate Deering
• Read "Hypothyroidism, the Unexpected Disease" by Broda Barnes
• Raise temp to 36 C
• Get to 80kg
• Strong libido

Bloodtest from 15.08.24

@RawGoatMilk88 said in Any recommended works on the practice of sex?:

@foobarbaazquux

If you’re looking for a more communist ethos book on sex you should read “Communism: how to breed the ugliest hoards of human waste”

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that sounds fascinating, where can i get it? my search engine didnt deliver any results

Any updates?

Also, can someone chime in regarding oral test metabolizing in the liver? i remember when i wanted to get into AAS about 8 years ago reading that those oral test supplements are toxic to the liver when metabolized, but as far as i remember those werent real test but rather test derivates. Does this apply to real test as well?