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      Ibshaver23
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      I wanna talk about filler.

      About 6 years ago, I got under eye filler to help my appearance. I’ve hard serious dark circles forever, and after reading online, I gathered that it was genetic and that there was nothing I could do to fix it - besides under eye filler.

      I now know, this couldn’t be further from the truth. I was so misguided at the time, very unhealthy and unhappy, this was before I ever found Peat.

      Anyway, I got the procedure done pretty easily. They used Juvederm, which is a hyaluronic acid-based filler. I was told it was the most mild option and that it would fully dissolve on its own as our bodies break it down. This already exists in our bodies - how bad could it be?

      Right after injecting me, I got a rapid heart rate and overheating/fever situation, and I almost passed out. I thought nothing of it at the time, but that should’ve been my first clue that this situation was not great.

      Anyway, many years later, I’ve lost and regained health. Now that I’ve been losing weight, and my figure is becoming tighter and back to what it was growing up, my face has been slimming out too. I’ve been trying to figure out why I have these chubby cheeks, and I kept telling myself I just was overweight and that part of the weight hasn’t come off yet.

      But I’m pretty sure now that’s not true. I have this weird, uncanny valley look to my cheeks (I think the filler sunk down a little from my under eyes) and it looks puffy and especially misshapen/lumpy when I smile, kind of ruining it. This looks extra strange on someone who’s always had extremely sharp / defined features.

      Luckily for me, I don’t look like Zac efron or Matt Gaetz, as I only had .25-.5 of a filler tube in my face. But it’s still enough to bother me and want my good looks back.

      I’ve been looking into this as much as I can. Theres a lot of gaslighting with this cosmetics stuff but take it from me, IT DOES NOT DISSOLVE! It’s been 6 years for me and most information said online it was to be gone in 2.

      I really just want this shit out of my face, so I started researching what I do. Turns out the whole plastic surgery/ filler industry have started dissolving fillers with something called hyaluronidase, with concerns over it dissolving our own tissue too. There’s even a Facebook group with horror stories. But it seems some have had good experiences with reducing the lumpy puffiness left over from fillers. I haven’t yet decided if it’s another scheme to make this beauty industry cyclical, or if it honestly just gets rid of the old filler, as some have said and have actually shown.

      After going through this and now setting out on trying to fix it, I don’t think the risk outweighs the reward. I got the smallest amount of the safest filler, and I’m trying to overcome that mistake 6 years later.

      If there was a natural or supplemental method to help dissolve or metabolize this stuff, I’d love to know about it and look into it. I want my beautiful defined bone structure back, is there a safe way to do that?

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        zorba990 @Ibshaver23
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        @Ibshaver23 I would try and get in contact with Julie at https://www.perfectcomplexionskincare.com she may have some ideas that will help.

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          Ibshaver23 @zorba990
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          @zorba990

          Thank you so much for the recommendation. I contacted her.

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            Ibshaver23
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            Follow-up/ update: I’ve looked into this a little more.

            BDDE is the cross linking agent that they use to make the filler more durable. I’m going to look into taking care of that.

            Beyond that, some people have set that the filler creates fibrotic tissue, and anti-fibrotic agents are being used by doctors to treat fillers. So that’s definitely a potential method for treatment, and I’m currently looking at Dissolve-It-All, DeFibron, and Ray’s healing marmalade.

            I also think (just from my own experience and observations) that calcification is involved. Mainly because I’ve been seeing the are and my overall face shape improve after regularly taking more vitamin K.

            Last, water retention seems to be a key element to this. I believe hyaluronic acid affects water regulation and causes some edema and swelling. I think that is a mechanism that the filler uses to “plump up”. Estrogen (opposing it) and potassium (supplying sufficient amounts) are going to be focuses here, with more future considerations.

            That’s all for now. Trying to learn and get help as much as I can

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              izkrov
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              I remember reading awhile ago that injecting Hyaluronic Acid (HA) into a scar made it fade then come back, but injecting HA + CO2 made it go away. (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37723352/). I think there's something about the combination that might be good even if you're not exactly dealing with scars. I'd look into carboxytherapy (it's a subcutaneous injection, but I think CO2 absorbs well enough through the skin even without that. there's little gels for a face mask you can get like from here

              Otherwise I read that Vitamin A is needed in excreting calcium in the calcium cycle, so a topical vitamin A and D combo in coconut oil wouldn't hurt to try if you think calcification is involved.

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