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    • CiceroC
      Cicero @Kvirion
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      • jamezb46J
        jamezb46 @wester130
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        @wester130

        Did you measure the tissue and blood levels of those hormones of the people you observed? Or did you just intuit what those values were based on some kind of godlike x-ray vision where you could see the levels of hormones in their bodies just by looking at them?

        I actually think that there are some observable characteristics that can give some indication of at least some of those hormones. For example, the 2D/4D digit ratio test for pre-natal testosterone exposure.

        In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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        • KvirionK
          Kvirion @jamezb46
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          @jamezb46 said in Estrogenic, Androgenic and Progestogenic People:

          I actually think that there are some observable characteristics that can give some indication of at least some of those hormones. For example, the 2D/4D digit ratio test for pre-natal testosterone exposure.

          There was a (quasi-?) scientific attempt to approach a similar topic: https://helenfisher.com/personality/ - I may have some/many doubts about the methodology, but still I think the author at least tried to do her best...

          A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
          Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
          There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
          And drinking largely sobers us again.
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          • alfredoolivasA
            alfredoolivas @Kvirion
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            @Kvirion The serotonin part surprisingly in line with Peat:
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            • KvirionK
              Kvirion @alfredoolivas
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              @alfredoolivas Yes, this is a good one!

              But for example, I doubt the estrogen category, the study would do probably much better with progesterone instead.
              I would probably also exchange Testosterone type with the T to DHT ratio... etc.

              A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
              Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
              There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
              And drinking largely sobers us again.
              ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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              • alfredoolivasA
                alfredoolivas @Kvirion
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                @Kvirion I suppose she may have a point about the "negotiator" personality being driven by estrogen, but I don't think the "sympathetic, trusting, empathetic and nurturing." characteristics of these individuals are authentic.

                They tend to come off of this way to most people they meet, and people who don't know better think they are lovely, but in reality these conveyed messages of sympthathy, trust, empathy and nurture, don't mean anything, and they hold no weight.

                They tend to act this way, I think because it is a comfortable, safe, easy, pleasurable way to interact with the world. Maybe. I don't know why they are act this way, I don't think it is to manipulate others too.

                But basically from my expereience, these "negotiator" personalities are always very fake and their kindness does not mean anything, and it is only done out of convenience. It doesn't cost them anything that is a large reason they act this way -they will not dip their foot into water to save you, as soon as their kindness costs them something they are no longer kind. So I think that this personality may indeed be driven by estrogen, but for nefarious reasons only.

                I tend to see noticable kindness as a bad first impression when I meet someone. Rudeness is equally as bad.

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                • alfredoolivasA
                  alfredoolivas @alfredoolivas
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                  @alfredoolivas my new barber gave these vibes to me. I was suspicous of his personality for a few months. However, last time I went to get a haircut from him, he offered to lower the price of my already discounted hair cut. It was already a very inexpensive price, in an expensive part of town, lowering the price would mean he would be working the last hour maybe a few dollars above minimum wage. I saw that his kindness wasn't a veil, and genuine, and now I trust him and greatly appreciate him.

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                  • KvirionK
                    Kvirion @alfredoolivas
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                    @alfredoolivas Yeah, I see your point.

                    I guess it would be better to exchange the category name for "mediators" - ones who don't like their friends fighting each other and try to establish consensus or mutual understanding. This will fit more with empathy.

                    But this is one of my reservations about this study - categories seem to be too broad... too generalized.

                    Or maybe this study should be seen just as a study of dating sites'' members nothing more...

                    I tend to see noticable kindness as a bad first impression when I meet someone.

                    This may be highly context/culture-dependent...

                    A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
                    Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
                    There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
                    And drinking largely sobers us again.
                    ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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                    • alfredoolivasA
                      alfredoolivas @jamezb46
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                      @jamezb46 Wester actually has laser vision high performance liquid chromatography sensitive hormone testing, he can detect the hormone concentrations of anyone in the room with him, to a precision of 2 decimal places

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                      • jamezb46J
                        jamezb46 @alfredoolivas
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                        @alfredoolivas lol

                        In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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