any explanation for photographic memory?
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Do you have any explanation for photographic memory? How is it possible that some people seem to remember things in such vivid detail after only a brief glance?
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Photographic memory doesn't exist.
This is a bullshit myth.
What exist is the use of mnemonics techniques to retain and revisit some memory, knowledge.
Search the artofmemory forum.
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@irichard-will said in any explanation for photographic memory?
What exist is the use of mnemonics techniques to retain and revisit some memory, knowledge.
Search the artofmemory forum.
They have a lot of free material about this subject.Bullshit myth
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Using mnemonics techniques it's possible to learn and memorize a lot of things faster, which looks like the person has photographic memory.
A normal person can maintain between 5 to 7 ideas before forgeting one of them.
Like, if you were to remember a list of items to buy. You can in average remember up to seven items to buy. As you add more items you become more likely to forget.
Using mnemonic techniques your capacity to remember random ideas/objects becomes much much greater.
The first time i used mnemonics i jumped from 7 to 100. The second test i did using mnemonics i memorized almost 200 items.
There are many competitions and challenges mnemonic artists compete.
Memorizing: deck of cards, random items, binary numbers, random numbers, poetry, etc...But those things are not acomplished because of a intrinsic born ability like photographic memory.
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@irichard-will said in any explanation for photographic memory?:
But those things are not acomplished because of a intrinsic born ability like photographic memory.
It's actually learned and trained.No, you Can re live a visual experience just as it happened, with 0 training, it Can happen. Sometimes i spend time sitting expose to sunlight, and when i lie down at night, i get flash of light, and i see what i saw when i was sitting expose to sunlight
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@water-fire yes, this is totally possible.
What i am denying is the existence of photographic memory.
A person born with the ability to naturally memorize and remember everything in it's life at will. Capable of only seeing book pages and remember letter by letter without ever training their mind to do such. -
I don't really know how memory works, so I can't explain photographic memory. That being said, I can still share some related information.
It's possible that we have the potential to remember everything that we have experienced, but just don't have access to it most of the time.
From Return to the Brain of Eden:
- "Around this time, childhood memories were experienced at a profound and exquisite level, too. Details of the patterns of carpets and curtains, smells, and even emotions felt at the time were almost fully brought back to life. Accessing such vivid memories, though unusual, can occur spontaneously. Some shamanic traditions hold that we all can remember everything that has happened to us in great detail." (p. 26)
- "T.W. has found it possible to read two lines at a time, and by pushing this, has on occasion increased his scanning level to blocks of six lines and even whole pages. After processing a page in this way he "knew" what was written there, but to bring it out rationally took a bit of time. It needed something like translation to enable it to come out of the rational side." (p. 28)
The first part is from one of Tony Wright's (one of the authors) sleep deprivation experiments. The idea behind this is that the "batteries" of the left hemisphere of the brain are much more limited than those of the right hemisphere. So, when a person goes for a long period of time without sleep, it's possible that the left hemisphere's inhibition of the right hemisphere can be removed. But it's also mentioned in the book that the removal of the inhibition alone isn't necessarily enough for some abilities to arise. A certain kind of neurochemistry might also be needed.
I don't really remember my childhood, but there have been a few times when, triggered by something external, I've recalled moments from childhood with great detail. And it's not even like the moments were especially loaded with emotion or anything like that. They were seemingly inconsequential moments. There doesn't seem to be any reason for me to keep those memories stored in such detail while discarding everything else.
Now that I think about it, I remember my childhood a bit better now than I used to. And, interestingly, the moments of recall I mentioned also happened relatively recently. Perhaps I'm regaining my childhood memories.
An interesting post from r/LucidDreaming:
- "I had an extremely lucid dream a week ago, where it wasn't vaguely lucid, or when it's lucid, but you're still a bit confused and dreamy; no, nothing like that - this was as lucid as it gets. I was completely conscious, so I decided to run some tests in the dream, sort of like a scientific study about lucid dreaming, since I am a student of medical science. I first did some tests about taste and feel, which produced incredible results. I could feel pain the same as being awake and conscious. I tasted some strawberries and was marvelled by the sweet taste. Then came the more interesting part to do with stored memory recall. I have a table in the yard that has some complex patterns in the ironwork, of which I could not redraw or give you much detail about if I was awake conscious. However, in the dream, I observed the table and made note of how many times the iron spiralled. There were 8 sections that ended with a spiralled iron-work. So, immediately as I woke up from the dream, I kept the information of 8 spirals and went outside to count them in actuality. There were 8. This may seem like an unsurprisingly boring study to you if you're a common lucid dreamer, but to me as a scientist it's quite remarkable as it pertains to stored memory recall. There is a lot to be learned"
And from a comment below the post:
- "I remember dreaming of a weird flower (actually ground cherries) and thinking 'wow, nice physalis they got here!'. I had now idea what it was when I woke up, but the name stuck in my head. So I went to check Wikipedia, and it turned out to be the the actual flowers I saw in my dreams. Dreaming seems to open completely the gates of our memories, without the fear of ' not remembering properly' we have when awake."
Memories from dreams aren't always reliable--it's possible to get false memories. It would be interesting to do more experiments with recalling verifiable experiences or information with lucid dreaming.
Cryptomnesia Wikipedia page is interesting.
@irichard-will said in any explanation for photographic memory?:
seeing book pages and remember letter by letter without ever training their mind to do such
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John von Neumann and other Hungarian aliens from early 20th century, they just came to this world with super computer in their head. But maybe there is a role for diet too, the department where John von Neumann worked had very high sugar consumption.
Mnemonic techniques work only so far, photographic memory comes naturally to some people.
