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      winters2
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      Do any of you take it? Isn’t it anti-peat, I’ve read that it suppresses cholesterol (same mechanism as statins)

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        LucH @winters2
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        @winters2 said in Tocotrienols?:

        Do any of you take it? Isn’t it anti-peat, I’ve read that it suppresses cholesterol (same mechanism as statins)

        Chris Masterjohn knows a lot on cholesterol and takes / took 20-25 mg suppl a day to target what he wanted.
        Make a difference between RDA and pharmacological effects.
        RP has classified tocos as prometabolic (estrogen-antagonist when in excess) provided you take some points into account.
        If you're talking only about tocotrienols, I won't take them alone, except if in cure to target inflammation and optimize wealthy membrane. Only in cure then. Not at the same meal as vitamin K or other quinones.

        Useful links

        • Assuming a typical intake of dietary PUFA, a vitamin E requirement ranging from 12 to 20 mg of RRR- -tocopherol/d can be calculated.
          The average westerner would need "only" 12-20 mg of natural vitamin E per day. The previous RDA has been changed since a majority of people were deficient.
          DOI:10.1017/S000711451500272X Vitamin E function and requirements in relation to PUFA.
          => Adjusting Vitamin E Needs with Unsaturated Oil Intake

        More info on Vit E (translator needed, in French):
        https://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t30-vitamine-e-plus-qu-une-vitamine#60
        Excerpt 1:
        Most studies show a beginning of preventive efficiency at doses of 100 IU /d in degenerative diseases. Braking of oxidative stress which is underlying the phenomena of senescence and the appearance of all degenerative pathologies: cardiovascular, cancers, osteoarthritis, osteoporosis, presbyacousis, cataract, macular degeneration, Parkinson and Alzheimer's diseases, etc.

        Excerpt 2:

        • Optimal contribution, without pathology, if under 40 years old: 100 IU per day.
        • Contribution in case of supplementation in polyunsaturated fatty acids 100 IU per gram of EPA. - Therapeutic contribution: 400 - 500 IU every 5 days.
          Mg/ UI conversion: 100 mg = 150 IU.
          Personally, it’s 400 UI mixed toco every 3 days (+/ twice a week). 3x if inflammation.

        Note: High dose Vit K can interfere with Vit E metabolism. Not at the same time.
        Remind: Too much of a good thing is bad. Never take only one kind toco on a usual base. 2 tocos are required (functions are different).

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