Is this estrogen?
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@Jennifer
It's seems to vary based on how inflamed my gut is. Today probably only lactose free milk, fruit juice, ox tail broth, skyr yoghurt, fish, meat (I think), eggs, honey.So I think I'm going to try make custard and jelly with fish gelatin (I don't tolerate beef gelatin) and see if that can get me eating more! Fingers crossed I don't get an endotoxin reaction from fish gelatin.
Do you think ondansetron would be worth trying? The gut irritation is pretty bad at the moment.
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Have you considered Saccharomyces Boulardii Probiotics?
Here is a presentation that explains its utility for gut permutability.
https://www.omicsgroup.com/conferences/ACS/conference/speaker_ppt/16113-Speaker-ppt.pdf
This product at Amazon explains how to ferment organic applesauce and organic apple juice from capsules to make it more cost effective.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JK30A1M/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A98IYZBO3C56&th=1
Best of luck. I am at the airport waiting for my flight.
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@LucyJ, regarding the gut inflammation and ondansetron, did I understand you correctly that you’re currently taking 1 grain of thyroid daily? Do you know what your temp (including extremities—feet, hands, nose and ears) and pulse rate average first thing in the morning, just before eating and 20–30 minutes after eating? There’s no doubt that your limited diet can be contributing to your low appetite but given that, your digestive complaints, unexplained infertility and pots, if you do take thyroid, I’m wondering if you may need to increase your dose?
Whenever my appetite and digestive strength wane, it’s usually a sign I need to increase my thyroid dose, and it’s been the same for every person I’ve cared for who takes thyroid. Just as an example, I spent most of this past year in the kitchen cooking up a storm for my dad and had him trialing digestive aids because he didn’t have an appetite and complained that food just sat in his stomach. Come to find out, he was only taking half the amount of thyroid I had advised him to take. After doubling his dose, his appetite was back and he was digesting his food well.
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I’d cut the dose of you b vitamin in half and less frequent when you’re struggling. Until you can eat more food. Your taking higher dose thiamine? That’s making your cells use up your glycogen quicker ie you crash sooner.
Drink a coke when that happens… co2 plus sugar plus caffeine = good times.
Some Bioenergetic folks recommend smaller doses of b vitamins more frequently like dissolving a pill in water and sipping throughout the day. Georgi talks about high doses but then skipping days. Hitting the system hard but then backing off.
Experiment, and good luck!
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@dapose This really makes sense. That's currently what's happening and my sleep is wrecked. I keep waking at 3 am and can't get back to sleep for at lest an hour. I was planning on not taking any today because I feel so over stimulated so thanks for this message
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@Jennifer Yes 1 grain. Resting pulse in am 60pbm, temp 36 degrees Celsius. Feet usually cold.
I increased my dose half a grain the other day and my pulse got lower??
I think I do need more but keep being told I have to increase calories first? what are your thoughts on this?
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@LucyJ I’m a big fan of a small glass of grape juice fallowed by a small glass of baking soda water right before bed! It works! Like 6-7oz each. Put 1/2 tsp of baking soda in the water and stir. This helps a lot of people. Grape juice isn’t essential so you could do chamomile tea with big spoon of honey for example… basicly your liver glycogen is running out in the middle of the night and your brain requires it so then your spiking cortisol to make more blood sugar which makes you wide awake so… you should look into ways of improving liver function and storage of glycogen. Taurine and glycine lowering stress adequate protein in the diet for liver function.
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@LucyJ said in Is this estrogen?:
@Jennifer Yes 1 grain. Resting pulse in am 60pbm, temp 36 degrees Celsius. Feet usually cold.
I increased my dose half a grain the other day and my pulse got lower??
I think I do need more but keep being told I have to increase calories first? what are your thoughts on this?
Okay, so definitely still hypo. Cold feet are due to adrenaline, which is compensating for your under-active thyroid, cutting off circulation to your extremities to keep your vital organs warm, and waking at 3 am is a sign you’re still dealing with hypoglycemia, basically, what dapose said—your liver glycogen is being used up during the night while you’re in a fasted state, causing cortisol, the wake-up hormone, to be released to break down your own tissues to raise your blood sugar—which is likely why increasing your thyroid dose lowered your pulse—it lowered adrenaline. It should rebound after some time on the higher dose, assuming your energy requirements are being met.
Is it your doctor and/or nutritionist who keep telling you you need to increase your calories before increasing your thyroid dose? Roughly how many calories are you averaging daily? Some people find that their caloric needs increase when supplementing thyroid, while some such as Ray and myself find they decrease—Ray went from needing 8,000 to 4,500, and I went from needing upwards of 3,500 to roughly 2,500–2,700 depending on my cycle, which is far more appropriate for my size and activity level. I was averaging at least 1,000 more calories than my brother who is twice my size.
With that said, if a hypothyroid person is in an energy deficit caused by insufficient calories and/or excess energy expenditure, their under-active thyroid is likely due to that and thyroid supplementation won’t help unless the increase in appetite that can come with supplementing thyroid is honored. I’ve known many people with a history of dieting/food rules/eating disorders/painful digestion who were afraid to honor their appetite and required professional help to overcome it before supplementing. In some cases, overcoming their fear and essentially refeeding was enough to improve their thyroid function, making supplementation unnecessary.
