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      Elza
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      What would you take if you can barely sleep for weeks and are becoming weaker, can barely walk, stay in bed most of the day without sleeping. I just sleep à bitat nigt and wake up incapable of going back to sleep.
      Please help.

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        Luke
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        I had phases like that, once two weeks when I couldn't sleep more than three hours max a night. The only thing that helps me short-term with insomnia is an antihistamine drug like doxylamine (I can't get cyproheptadine, but that should work as well).

        But it's not a long-term solution. Did anything change in your life since you started having insomnia? Diet, stress, relationships etc? What do you do when you wake up and can't get back to sleep? Do you feel hungry and/or hypoglycemic and does it help if you eat a little sugary snack?

        I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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          ThinPicking
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          A lot of sugar, forget your appetite and pile in the calories. Be careful with water and journal your behaviour to read back 3 days every 3 days.

          Also, please. Communicate with your physician Elza. In great detail, with great frequency and on record.

          https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/8927/reducing-antipsychotic-effects

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            lobotomize @Elza
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            @Elza progesterone or cyprohept

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              sunsunsun @Luke
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              @Luke biosense in Richmond BC Canada will ship name-brand cyproheptadine internationally. it's expensive af tho

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                Elza @Luke
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                @Luke yes, I have tried some cyproheptadine called periactin here. It does help for sleep. I am able to get a few hours rest but I am too weak now to do anything.

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                  Elza @lobotomize
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                  @lobotomize progestérone doesn’t do anything but cyproheptadine does help.

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                    Elza @ThinPicking
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                    @ThinPicking yeah, I might try this. I think it has to do with the antipsychotics but they won’t do anything.
                    The only thing that makes me deeply sleep is the benzodiazepine Ativan/temesta.

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                      lobotomize @Elza
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                      @Elza Inhale some sauerkraut intranasally.

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                        lobotomize @ThinPicking
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                        @ThinPicking @Elza if you are going to roll and smoke some sugar, make sure to add a protein source to it because you probably have either high hist, high sero or unrelated high adren, probably not high cortisol if you peat.

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                          lobotomize
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                          @Elza give me a rundown of your prebed routine supps /foods

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                            ThinPicking @lobotomize
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                            All three "with sugar on top". But there's a confounding factor.

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                              LucH @Elza
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                              @Elza said in Sleep help:

                              What would you take if you can barely sleep for weeks and are becoming weaker

                              You can’t recover as long cortisol counteracts the serotonine – melatonine cycle.
                              Melatonin is derived from serotonin. Serotonin is a central regulator of mental and physical well-being, connecting the brain, gut, sleep, and emotions.
                              Stress → inflammation → ↓ serotonin → ↓ emotional regulation → ↑ stress.
                              I can develop if interested.

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                                irichard.will
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                                Don't overdo and overstress yourself trying to make too many changes at once and don't self blame. Know that healing requires time. Learn to be charitable towards yourself.
                                Make a list of health habits to include in your day. Organize them in order of less difficult to hardest. Which ones you feel more likely to be successful and those which you feel a blockage.
                                Things to consider in your list. Things that helps me:

                                • make your bedroom completely dark during sleep.

                                • bath in sun during the day.

                                • before sleeping eat until full. I feel far more sleepy after eating, specially potatoes, butter and salt. Potatoes are great to restore glycogen and recalibrate your internal clock. You will notice getting up early everytime you eat potatoes before sleeping even if you went to sleep late.

                                • massage your eyes. In the dark room of sleep lightly press the palms of your hands toward you eyes. It will recalibrate your eyesight and when you open your eyes again your eyesight will be out of focus. | i feel that motivation and focus is extremely dependent on eye pressure and health, even libido is dependent on our eyes somehow.

                                • listen some music. Preferable classic, melodic to relax. Not necessarily to sleep.

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                                  ethan @Elza
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                                  @Elza "They will not pick up progesterone if adrenaline is present, if there's been a lot of stress, and they will not pick up progesterone when the blood sugar is low."
                                  -Katharina Dalton MD

                                  if progesterone doesn't do anything you may be running off of adrenaline and deficient in thiamine and magnesium. thyroid hormone would probably help too since it directly antagonizes adrenaline.

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                                    ethan
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                                    and salt

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                                      user1 @Elza
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                                      @Elza said in Sleep help:

                                      What would you take if you can barely sleep for weeks and are becoming weaker, can barely walk, stay in bed most of the day without sleeping. I just sleep à bitat nigt and wake up incapable of going back to sleep.
                                      Please help.

                                      Hi, sleeping in total dark, lowering emf exposure by turning off bluetooth/wifi on your phone, internet modem, and other electronic devices, and a night turning off your bedroom electricity and ceiling electricity(if both separated) on circuit breaker, it can have massive impact.

                                      Also if you sleep on matress, sleeping with no pillow if you sleep on your back on your stomach can be optimal, head at same lvl of chest torso is optimal compare to head higher than neck and.torso due to pillow elevatio, pillow can be optimal is you sleep on true side

                                      What do you eat?

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