Can I replace water with milk?

VehmicJuryman

I thought most Peaters didn't drink water. I've found that I almost never crave water, I get 99% of my hydration from milk and juice.

You would probably get fat.

b1

@short_hope
What do you drink then? or do you just not drink?

DG

if you're totally replacing it then don't go above 1% fat

short_hope

@RawGoatMilk88
Until I learn to get my nutrients from the sun and absorb moisture from the atmosphere I'm drinking milk, juice, coffee, tea (during the allergy season) sometimes a coke.

Sattva

I'm stating the obvious here but think it's worth stating as 'milk makes you fat' seems a common belief. If you're eating a complete diet and add milk you will probably gain weight, if the milk replaces other food sources you shouldn't get fat. An extreme example is that if I only drink whole milk for my calories and don't eat anything else, I don't don't get fat.

@short_hope

Nothing wrong with that

@Sattva

I don’t think anyone thinks “milk makes you fat” but drinking milk exclusively in place of water probably would.

LucH

Milk IS lightly acidifying.
Water IS more valuable for what it takes away than what it brings.
There are two kinds of water. Water as food and water as purifying agent (cleansing agent).
Perso I'd target to balance lactose with m'y capacity to assimilate it cause WE are enzyme-limited. Could ferment then.
Note: Most of thé milks are recombined when not spécified. Traficoted. Mind thé source.

T-3

@LucH Good comment re water should be thought of primarily as 'what it takes away'.

My own regimen is zero water intake and heavy milk consumption (1.5 to 2 liters per day, full fat).

I agree with @Sattva that dietary fears such as 'need water for hydration' and 'milk makes you fat' are generally overplayed (acknowledging that everyone's context will be different). I have found it difficult to reconcile Peat's recommendation of reduced-fat milk to avoid getting fat when consumed in large quantities with my own positive experience, benefitting from unlimited full-fat milk consumption with zero water intake.

I frequently try to convince my adult sons to reduce water intake. I worry that sipping on water throughout the day interferes with the body's utilization of nutrients and likely slows the basal metabolic rate, all else equal.

short_hope

@b1 said in Can I replace water with milk?:

What do you drink then? or do you just not drink?

Just noticed I quoted the wrong person:

@RawGoatMilk88
Until I learn to get my nutrients from the sun and absorb moisture from the atmosphere I'm drinking milk, juice, coffee, tea (during the allergy season) sometimes a coke.

T-3

@short_hope I drink 1.5+ liters of whole milk, orange juice, grape juice, lots of coffee w/ milk (throughout the day), occasional coconut water, fizzy drinks with sucrose/glucose.

Fluid content in the foods we eat (whole fruit, etc.) is often not included as it should be (or not easy to quantify) when people think about their fluid intake.

I grew up with parents very interested in health food and maintaining good hydration. And I raised my children pushing frequent water consumption on them, which I now regret (before reading Ray Peat on 'salt to taste' and dangers of excess water intake). I think excessive worry about dehydration and excess water intake worked against my health objectives. I'm now feeling like good metabolic health has been finally achieved (last 5-8 years) after stopping water drinking. Of course still using water to cook soup/broth, boil potatoes, etc.