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    Muscle twitches/acute “cramps”. Help appreciated

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      ejmcc27
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      I’ve gone down a rabbit hole and through trying out too many supplements/combinations of supplements (fat soluble vitamins, Mg, zinc, androsterone, B vitamins). I get twitches in small areas, not like large cramps where the whole muscle tightens, but in specific small areas very quickly and intermittently.

      I thought that it might be related to electrolytes, so I cut out all supplements and just tried salt and fluids. That didn’t help so I tried to work in certain minerals, trying each one individually and incorporating in small amounts. Supplementing copper seemed to help for a short period of time, until the twitches came back, same story with magnesium and zinc. I also tried to work in thiamine, but that didn’t help.

      I eat a typical ‘peaty’ diet: milk, honey, coffee, carrot salad, steak, etc..

      Not sure where to go from here or if anyone has advice, anything is appreciated.

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        @ejmcc27 generally a sign of lower atp / hypoxia (eyelid is very common place to get twitches 1 area that shows hypoxia & hypothyroidism obviously, e.g darkens or droops down, with very high usage. atp is used in reversing muscle contraction, with twitches the muscle is failing to stay in the relaxed state),
        could try stopping vitamin D and limiting UV light for a few weeks to confirm if its that making it worse. thats what i found. + eating more calories if you have low intake (fat release of stored vit d otherwise). in poor health vitamin D can excessively convert to a form that inhibits mitochondria. it could be from a range of things causing the hypoxia / lower atp though

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            @cs3000 said in Muscle twitches/acute “cramps”. Help appreciated:

            @ejmcc27 generally a sign of lower atp / hypoxia (eyelid is very common place to get twitches 1 area that shows hypoxia & hypothyroidism obviously, e.g darkens or droops down, with very high usage. atp is used in reversing muscle contraction, with twitches the muscle is failing to stay in the relaxed state),
            could try stopping vitamin D and limiting UV light for a few weeks to confirm if its that making it worse. thats what i found. + eating more calories if you have low intake (fat release of stored vit d otherwise). in poor health vitamin D can excessively convert to a form that inhibits mitochondria. it could be from a range of things causing the hypoxia / lower atp though

            I don’t believe/show signs of being hypothyroid. But will try to limit vitamin D and see what happens.

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