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    • Oj_simpsonO
      Oj_simpson
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      Friend of mine might have a slight adderall dependence problem and has asked me for advice

      What are the hazards of such an addiction?

      And what are some bioenergetically sound ways to wean and quit without major withdrawal or sacrificing performance?

      Thank u

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      • CaveSurgeonC
        CaveSurgeon
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        Stopping abruptly is difficult but possible with appropriate support. Adding progesterone, particularly through daily use of Progest-E, can help ease some of the difficulties. Using alternatives such as lisuride and energin instead of Adderall can be effective, though the person will need to go through a period of adjustment.

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        • TerminatorT
          Terminator @Oj_simpson
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          @Oj_simpson Agree with CaveSurgeon, b1 and caffeine are stimulating enough imo. Modafinil is not peaty but that could be used as well to help him transition off adderall

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            saturnmissiles
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            Should always taper down any substance like this used long term but he can likely cut his usage a lot right away as anything above a certain threshold (maybe 5mg) is probably unnecessary for any benefit other than tweaking. If someone is going to use amphetamine I think Dexedrine is a better option than Adderall as it’s missing the L-amp that only increases heart rate (they said it would keep
            kids still in class…) but you are getting increased serotonin (among other things) regardless.

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            • Aryan_RacistA
              Aryan_Racist @Oj_simpson
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              @Oj_simpson as a former hardcore Adderall addict, you will be completely useless for a while.

              One of hardest parts is getting used to not being productive anymore.

              The other VERY difficult part is the anhedonia which will subside after a month or two, but you won't experience regular emotions again for 6 months.

              You might have anger issues, lack of interest in sex, insomnia after the initial withdrawal wears of, etc. Your "mental health" will be pretty bad tbh.

              Long term this addiction will completely destroy you in an insidious way. You will become far less social and much more anxious and depressed. You will actually become unproductive as you will end up spending 10hours perfecting a 10 slide powerpoint at work and losing sight of the bigger picture.

              Just be aware that these symptoms do last a while. Big pharma has an incentive to lie about how long these withdrawals last and how intense they are.

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