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did taking Armour the Peat way at night worked for you?

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    Jennifer @GRay
    last edited by Mar 12, 2025, 10:28 PM

    @GRay, have you tried taking the 1/4 grain earlier in the day with your breakfast or lunch dose or perhaps you need extra calories, particularly carbs, when taking an extra 1/4 grain?

    I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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      GRay @Jennifer
      last edited by Mar 13, 2025, 3:12 AM

      @Jennifer said in did taking Armour the Peat way at night worked for you?:

      have you tried taking the 1/4 grain earlier in the day with your breakfast or lunch dose or perhaps you need extra calories, particularly carbs, when taking an extra 1/4 grain?

      I didn't. I was thinking to try to take it at 3/4pm maybe, since I tend to get sleepy around that time, or maybe just taking the full grain in the am, then the 1/4 around 3/4pm.

      Perhaps I will try it again before bed with extra carbs

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        risingfire @GRay
        last edited by Mar 13, 2025, 4:07 PM

        @GRay are you getting enough calcium? Are you consuming liver and oysters once a week? These are pertinent for your nutritional needs

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          GRay @risingfire
          last edited by Mar 13, 2025, 9:59 PM

          @risingfire

          I do everything, thanks for checking on this. Since Peating I have increased my Ca to about 1500mg tot, some from cheese and the rest from Oranges and Bone Meal supplement

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            risingfire @GRay
            last edited by Mar 14, 2025, 12:54 PM

            @GRay record your diet in cronometer for a week and send me it

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              GRay @risingfire
              last edited by Mar 15, 2025, 8:10 PM

              @risingfire

              I eat pretty much the same. I already saved a usual day of eating plus a day of eating with liver, did not do that with the Oysters.

              How do I send it?

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                risingfire @GRay
                last edited by Mar 17, 2025, 1:24 PM

                @GRay screenshot it and post it

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                  GRay @risingfire
                  last edited by GRay Mar 19, 2025, 12:11 AM Mar 19, 2025, 12:08 AM

                  @risingfire

                  consider I modified this a little, but my Calories and macro goals are the same.

                  I substitute the banana with 2 corn tortillas for breakfast.

                  I moved some protein from lunch to dinner, so I get about 50gr protein each meal. I also added about 20gr carbs at lunch, plus I snack fruit or dates before going to bed maybe after dinner too.

                  On top of this Ca amount, I add 500mg at dinner from bonemeal.

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                    risingfire @GRay
                    last edited by Mar 19, 2025, 1:41 PM

                    @GRay seems solid though some peatards might give you grief. Do you check your pulse and temp on a regular basis?

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                      GRay @risingfire
                      last edited by GRay Mar 20, 2025, 7:30 PM Mar 20, 2025, 7:21 PM

                      @risingfire thanks for looking at it.

                      I do check temps and pulse, but I think I still need to figure out my Thyroid optimization yet, and straggling a bit with it.

                      I use the last generation Braun Ear thermometer now, and temp seems to be good most of the time, about 98.6 during the day.

                      HR though is often low 70's during the day when at rest like seating at the desk, or there is no stress, sometime even about 68.

                      I take half grain Armor before breakfast, another half before lunch, then I have been experimenting with an additional 1/4 either in the afternoon or before bed. Really trying to understand how to properly time and split during the day my Armour dose. I believe taking it before bed disturb my sleep

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                        risingfire @GRay
                        last edited by Mar 20, 2025, 7:55 PM

                        @GRay the right way to determine hypothyroidism is check temp and pulse first thing in the am in bed. If your temp and pulse drops after eating, you have high adrenaline

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                          GRay @risingfire
                          last edited by Mar 20, 2025, 8:13 PM

                          @risingfire what should the pulse be when waking? I took this am my temp before getting out of the bed and it was 98, I believe my pulse before raising is low 60's, same when sleeping

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                            risingfire @GRay
                            last edited by Mar 21, 2025, 12:35 PM

                            @GRay 70's maybe 80's. If it's the 90's with lower temps it's probably adrenaline

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                              GRay @risingfire
                              last edited by Mar 26, 2025, 5:22 PM

                              @risingfire

                              I have measured a coupe of times my am temp before rising with two different thermometers. A glass under armpit shows low tempt at about 97, but the Braun ear always shows about 98.

                              what do you think about this? if I follow one thermometer I'm hypo, but the other says I'm ok

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                                risingfire @GRay
                                last edited by Mar 28, 2025, 5:43 PM

                                @GRay mercury should be more accurate. Have you looked up the symptoms of hypothyroidism?

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                                  GRay @risingfire
                                  last edited by Mar 28, 2025, 7:58 PM

                                  @risingfire

                                  yes many times, and it is a bit confusing. Following Ray Peat on the thyroid effect/benefits has been more helpful.

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                                    risingfire @GRay
                                    last edited by Mar 31, 2025, 1:55 PM

                                    @GRay so what are your symptoms?

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                                      GRay @risingfire
                                      last edited by GRay Apr 2, 2025, 8:17 PM Apr 2, 2025, 8:15 PM

                                      @risingfire lately, I'm not so sure.

                                      when I was doing half grain before lunch and dinner I remember seeing my HR at rest to low 70's or a bit less, TSH at 1.0 with this. Some cold hands during the day, often after eating actually.

                                      Adding a 1/4 of a grain later in the day with dinner I thought it helped with feeling more strong at the gym, be able to carry more conversations with people, having more energy for it and feeling good.

                                      I tried this twice, TSH at .7, but I realized that taking thyroid in the evening disrupt my sleep, so I cut back again on the extra 1/4 for the past 7 days, and I fall asleep better.

                                      Water retention so far, and I tried to use the glass thermometer under armpit after lunch yesterday, it showed 98.3 or a bit less, Braun ear always shows btw 98.4 to 99.1 max

                                      I'm putting together a chart with the help of chatGPT searching under Ray Peat and Dr Alan Cristianson recommendations, to track thyroid symptoms during the day. I want to try to keep TSH at .5 or a bit less, see how I do with that

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                                        GRay @risingfire
                                        last edited by GRay Apr 2, 2025, 9:14 PM Apr 2, 2025, 9:12 PM

                                        @risingfire forgot to mention probably the most important symptom is constipation/slow food transit, but I'm dealing with SIBO, so I'm not sure how much comes from Thyroid or if it is only SIBO itself

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                                          risingfire @GRay
                                          last edited by Apr 3, 2025, 1:24 PM

                                          @GRay did you have these symptoms prior to Armour? You should take take thyroid after the meal per Peat

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