Mysterious gallbladder disease - can't digest fat for no apparent reason
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@BearWithMe
No problem. Lots of bacteria of the microbiome can synthesize GABA and I think of the B. adolescentis as one of the overall better ones but imo it's no good or at the least no benefit to feed colon-colonizing bacteria whilst there's something wrong in the upper GI system. P5P can be nice but I'd want to affirm serum B12 to be >500 ng/L first (wrt peristalsis).
Out of curiosity: Which antiparasitics had you taken? Any pancreatic lipotomatosis seen in the ultrasound? Afaik pancreatic secretion and gastric acid secretion are correlated so anything disrupting one of them would inhibit the other (wrt to the gastroparesis or lack of gastric mucous layer (impact of food stickyness) you wrote).I hope you can figure things out and share your findings.
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@CrumblingCookie Makes sense. Also, the antibiotics I might have to take would probably eradicate any B. adolescentis succesfully planted in the digestive tract.
Regarding antiparasitics, I have taken only flowers of sulphur, but in quite high doses (approx. 2x-3x the recommended antiparasitic dose) and the courses were repeated to increase chances of hitting the parasites in the right moment of their life cycle. Should I try different antiparasitic?
To summarize the discussion so far: I should take GABA powder and ensure adequate b12 + choline, to support forward peristaltis. Figure out what kind of pathogen colonized my digestive tract (if any) and then use targeted therapy to eradicate that pathogen, and/or use Camphoric acid as a non-specific treatment. Is that correct?
GABA powder cures my insomnia within minutes of taking, btw.
Would you recommend taking monolaurin as an adjuvant therapy, to support the main antibiotic / antifungal?
Earlier you mentioned chemically induced GI issues, what kind of chemicals might induce such symptoms?
I was told that there was no pancreatic lipotomatosis seen in the ultrasound.
Pancreas:
Gallbladder:
Liver:
Spleen:
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@BearWithMe
Hi, I can't help to interpret such ultrasound images (yet). All I see, if those measurements are done right, is that both your liver and spleen are indeed really small.
Is that a good thing and sign of extraordinarily good health? I don't know. Probably if I were your GP and only saw those ultrasound reports I'd throw in the towel and deem so.Earlier you mentioned chemically induced GI issues, what kind of chemicals might induce such symptoms?
Anything, really, especially if regeneration or lymphatic clearance are not up it. Emulsifiers, detergents, micro(nano)crystalline cellulose, NSAIDS, glucocorticoids, various other medications or caustic chemicals.
GABA powder and ensure adequate b12 + choline, to support forward peristaltis. Figure out what kind of pathogen colonized my digestive tract (if any) and then use targeted therapy to eradicate that pathogen, and/or use Camphoric acid as a non-specific treatment
That's what I'd aim at. If it's H. pylori that would be the most obvious and discernable cause.
Flowers of sulphur would only tackle lumen contents but e.g. no fluke in the biliary/pancreatic duct (which in rare very circumstances wouldn't excrete eggs in stool).monolaurin as an adjuvant therapy, to support the main antibiotic / antifungal?
I had looked into that and wasn't convinced by its selectivity against only some bacterial species. If it's anticandida/-fungal I would first want a semi-quantitative analysis of fungus in stool and still focus on the other drugs & biofilm- & membrane-breaking enzymes like hemicellulases.
GABA powder cures my insomnia within minutes of taking, btw.
Neat!
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@CrumblingCookie Thank you so much.
I have found a lab that can test all pathogens you mentioned. Any other pathogens I should test? Aspergillus and Saccharomyces maybe? I suspect the pathogen in my gut might be producing ethanol
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I'm eating 2500-3000 kcal, 350-450g of starch, every day, without an exception, since June 2023. I'm not physically active, walking from my workroom to bathroom is usually the only physical activity I engage in. Despite being in huge caloric surplus for very long time, I'm not gaining any body fat.
My stool looks like mostly undigested food. What I eat goes out without much change in appearance (or smell). Could it be that my body is slowing down / halting the motility, because it sense the food is not digested enough to move on to the next phase of digestion, but it is never digested enough to move on to the next phase of digestion? So it just sits there, waiting to be digested, but not being digested? Not sure if this is even possible?
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@BearWithMe
Have a look into raising acetylcholine-dependent vagus-nerve regulation of intestinal motility and those esophagus-to-anus "rush waves" by replenishing with high-dose B5, along with alpha-GPC (or cholinebitartrate if you stand the fishy smell) and perhaps some R-ALA and thiamine to round it off wrt the pyruvate->acetate reaction by the PDH complex.
Should be similar in effect as but more fundamental than taking GABA powder.
Maybe that's a possible explanation for food not progressing through the GI system in an orderly fashion but staying in place for long times and with weird, nonproductive spasms/contractions until eventually more foods or liquids arrive to push it through those "static" sections. Which results in a skipping of those digestive sections and a symptoms complex of both lack of motility and diarrhea, maldigestion and malabsorption. All hypothetical!
Also, nicotine enhances the postsynaptic action of ACh through nicotinic ACh receptors. In the short term and if not overdone (because otherwise receptor densitiy will adapt). I suppose that's behind the infamous dump after a cigarette and coffee. -
@CrumblingCookie This makes a lot of sense. Thank you very much.
Almost all supplements cause rapid destruction of my teeth. They have the same effect (possibly even worse) when applied topically. B-Vitamins, choline, fat soluble vitamins, magnesium, zinc, gaba, iodised salt... I can't even use skin moisturizers because when I do, I'm losing teeth.
I can probably push through and take the supplements anyways but the toothache makes it very hard to eat. Also, I don't want to be toothless in my early 30s.
Maybe eradicating the pathogens in my gut first would help?
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@BearWithMe
I don't know what to make of those teeth issues.
If you really have significant fat malabsorption then those fatty acids in the lumen will saponify with Ca and Mg, preventing uptake of both. Any extra metabolic stimulus may raise the requirements for those minerals, besides perhaps also generating more endogenous oxalic acid, thus dissolving bone/teeth. -
@CrumblingCookie Also makes a lot of sense.
Should I keep my fat intake as low as possible? How much calcium should I supplement?
I'm worried that too much calcium carbonate long term might contribute to gastroparesis. I can't digest milk, calcium carbonate is my only source of calcium
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@BearWithMe
I think it's ideal to have about 200-300mg Ca per meal for absorption and for binding to dietary oxalic acid. Over the course of a day allegedly the average requirement is about 1200mg Ca.
Just do what's comfortable and makes sense to you.The Ca-carbonate will always neutralize some gastric acid.
You could get 80% L/R/+ lactic acid, dilute it down to 5% and use that every day to blend with your stash of Ca-carbonate to convert it to Ca-lactate. That won't further react with gastric acid and also provide some L-lactate as an energy source. And if mucosal skin works similarly as outer skin then lactate will stimulate cell renewal in the stomach and upper GI sections. -
@CrumblingCookie Oh, that's brilliant. I like this idea a lot. Thank you very much!
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Is it possible that I'm disrupting my peristaltis by eating too often (every 90 minutes or so)?
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Try eating strawberrys.
Whenever i get constipated, feeling bloated, and feeling as if the food is not being properly digested i eat strawberry.
I don't know how or why but it helps a lot.
I just smash a bunch of strawberry with sugar.
Half a cup of strawberry with two tablespoon of sugar.
Who knows it might help you.
And i think that lemon, orange or vinegar might make it worse - in my experience. -
Is it possible that I'm disrupting my peristalsis by eating too much fiber?
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Calprotectin: 27,78 ug/g (ref. range 0,00 - 50,00)
Candida albicans positive
Candida krusei negative
Candida glabrata negative
Candida dubliniensis negative
Candida parapsilosis negative
Candida tropicalis negative
Candida lusitaniae negativeGiardia lamblia negative
Entamoeba histolytica negative
Cryptosporidium spp. negative
Blastocystis hominis negative
Dientamoeba fragilis negative
Cyclospora cayetanensis negativeCampylobacter spp. negative
Yersinia enterocolitica negativeThe PCR results doesn't show quantity. Apparently having some C. albicans in digestive tract is normal? Should I assume there is an overgrowth? I have been using corticosteroids for asthma from 1996 to 2009.
I'm struggling to find any literature on oral dosing of borax. Is 1/4 to 1/2 tsp a day a reasonable dose? Would you provide some guidance in this regard, please? I'm also trying to obtain a prescription for Nystatin.
My digestion got significantly worse in past months. Reflux is so bad that my spit is dark brown and the constant nausea is almost unbearable.
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@BearWithMe what do you eat these days?
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@user2 Oats and meat. Added a bit of glucose powder recently, to make the oats more palatable and possibly for some health benefits
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@BearWithMe said in Mysterious gallbladder disease - can't digest fat for no apparent reason:
@user2 Oats and meat. Added a bit of glucose powder recently, to make the oats more palatable and possibly for some health benefits
did you try differents types of fat sources, avocado, nuts, beef fat, lamb fat,eggs, olives, if yes, same effects from any of these sources, or it vary?
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@user2 Haven't had most of these foods in very long time, I'm not sure I can answer your question. I think fat source / type doesn't matter that much but I'm not sure.
Solid fat seems to digest significantly better than liquid fat, though. When I eat lard, tallow or coconut oil, I always make sure it is as cold as possible.
Liquid fat mixed with other stuff is the worst. Last time I had homogenized milk, it caused agony so bad I'd rather die of hunger than touching milk ever again. But any liquid fat mixed with small particles of other stuff causes similar reaction.
Liquid fat on pasta = okay-ish in small quantities
Liquid fat in mashed potatoes or porridge = agony -
I should probably say that I would not desribe this as gallbladder disease anymore. Sugars and carbs cause almost the same symptoms as fat. Protein doesn't cause obvious symptoms even in high quantities but I probably can't digest it either. Everything is passing through undigested.
I called it "gallbladder disease" because the discomfort is often felt in upper right part of the abdomen
