@Pooooop
Could be also in part due to very contracted, dysbalanced muscles around your spine, specifically in the area of your shoulder blades and your lower cervical vertebrae. So the stiffness prevents the rotary motion and compresses otherwise pre-weakened nerve bundles to your hands, epecially when under further exercise load. Maybe your neck posture is way worse since the restart in the worse gym or you're training the wrong muscles instead of their necessary counterparts.

@DavidPS
I've ordered the BioGaia Gastrus tablets with the two L. reuteri strains to try it out.
It stands and falls with the lactose and dairy protein tolerability of the fermentation product.

@yerrag said:
Thanks for your literary weekend intro!

She encourages it's use against candidiasis, and no doubt has antifungal properties. I don't have candidiasis but I went to have my blood examined using live blood analysis and discovered my red blood cells to harbor fungal species much like candida that would act like a parasite as it's life cycle revolves

I don't have diagnosable candida either but the essential point I take from your report is the importance of whatever shapeshifting pathogens reside intracellularly in their respective tissue niche.
So I may very well have bred highly resilient cell-wall-deficient bacterial / fungal organisms in my gut cells from the antibiotics.
That turpentine
@CrumblingCookie said:

helps to maintain villous lenghts during a couple of days of starvation/fasting (I hadn't known that villous atrophy sets in so quickly from a "use it or lose it" point).

may very well also have an unexpected background then: That such organisms, when their intestinal environment becomes too inhospitable by lack of nutrients in fasting or by antibiotic treatment, penetrate and damage the intestinal villi.
As it's known and proven for hyphae, i.e. the protruding fungal forms of yeasts.

I had read Dr. Jennifer Daniels' short book on turpentine before.
And a couple of years ago I had already taken turpentine at 2 teaspoons per day for over two weeks. Which was a lot. I found 1 teaspoon already quite aggressive on the GI system. But I liked the "brain effects" of improved microcirculation (some headaches, though, too).

I'll continue the monoterpenes in the small amounts of 4 drops multiple times daily. Doing the maths, that comes to about 1.5 teaspoons a week in total which surprisingly matches the total of Dr. Jen Daniels dosing recommendation of a 3/4 teaspoon once or twice a week.

@DavidPS

Thanks for this hint. I've just watched the video/instructions by Dr. William Davis. I like him. 36hrs fermentation for 12 doublings of c. 3-4hours as the sweet-spot plateau of live bacteria; 300 billion L. reuteri per serving!

Previously I had only made my own "yoghurt" (by legal definitions it's not) with selected L-lactid acid producing lactobacilli or with bifidobacteria only.
I've noticed that using bifidobacteria can make dairy (proteins) completely tolerable. Including B. breve is crucial for that.
It needs at least 12-18hrs of fermentation, however, and with many brands/origins of milk it just doesn't work properly at all* (it either remains very liquid, doesn't truly ferment as it should, or as in one brand even starts bubbling wildly with a terrible stink because of prior contamination). Which left me dissatisfied. Along with the fact, that I don't actually want to mass-feed bifidos into my small intestine. So pasteurising the bifidobacteria-"yogurth" after its fermentation should have been the logical next step to gain maximum tolerability from dairy. With such efforts only to tolerate and utilize dairy, I simply chose to forego it and depend on other foods.
Nevertheless, it was a great thing to find out.
Using only the good lactobacilli (rhamnosus, casei, paracasei, salivarius. There was no reuteri, though) yielded a better and tastier "yoghurt" (or super-tasty cottage cheese!), but there was still incomplete tolerability.
A combination of selected lactobacilli with the selected bifidos gave the best taste in some milks in which the use of only bifidos would lack the "punch" of freshness from lactic acid – the acetic acid from bifidos has a stale taste in comparison.

I'll give the max-feeding with L.reuteri a chance. I knew about and used it before but merely as the mentioned small probiotic drops for infants which didn't do much at all. It sounds like a good continuation of my previous dairy experimentations.
*: Comforting to read that Dr. Eric Berg also struggles quite a bit to get his L.reuteri fermentation recipes and ingredients just right.

With bactericidal reutericin as its major metabolite this is another approach to circle in on taking out the nasty resilient hidden unknown varieties of pathogens in the guts. There's a common goal and effect there shared with the mentioned turpentine.
If those L.reuteri reports about shifting body composition, i.e. increases of youthful muscle and loss of abdominal fat become true that'd be fine with me.
Have you noticed anything of that?
Did you include or forego the also-mentioned L.gasseri and Bacillus subtilis?

Recipe as per Dr. Eric Berg: 1 capsule (20 billion CFU), 2 table spoons inuline, a little half&half milk/cream to blend everything into a paste, then a liter of half&half, ferment at 99° F / 37° C for 36 hours and then eat half a cup a day.

@yerrag said:

Use of natural substances available in nature that are known for their antifungal properties may help as a start. Taking turpentine orally, for example. This would help change the microbiome towards a dominance by bacteria instead of fungal forms.

When you said turpentine, did you only think of its antifungal properties or of more?

I've been harboring some aversion to turpentine and didn't try it as intended. A few days ago, however, I started 4-5 times daily 4-5 drops of aforementioned monoterpenes (from peppermint oil) and whilst it's ached a little inititally and especially when taken without any dextrose (it's recommened to be taken with sugar, just as turpentine) its effects are remarkably beneficial and remarkably quickly so.
I've tried to find associations of turpentines/terpenes with intestinal mucosa.

And couldn't find much, really. From a bit of crossreading, however, it appears to be the case that turpentine AT LOW DOSES, but not at large doses (opposite effects!), exhibits trophic effects on the intestinal mucosa and villous length and proliferation by releasing cytokines (and perhaps improved microcirculation).
It helps to maintain villous lenghts during a couple of days of starvation/fasting (I hadn't known that villous atrophy sets in so quickly from a "use it or lose it" point).

So overall, low but not high doses of turpentine seems to stimulate the intestinal mucosa, and sort of imitate a well-functioning microbiome--brush border interaction in the absence of a proper microbiome?
Or maybe it reinstates the proper microbiome by putting right the brush border functionings? It's difficult so say with these reciprocities.

@war4512 Good replies!

@zaaku said in How did you treat your NAFLD and how long did it take?:

[Consider three to four times as much daily choline.]
Is this recommendation from personal experimentation or from a study?

Own experimentations after having read the available studies. The RDIs and AIs for choline are lamentable.

@CrumblingCookie said in B12:

Without choline, supplementation of B vitamins eventually leads to liver damage (Biskind).

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16273261/
Benjamin Y Lee, Krishna Yanamandra, Joseph A Bocchini Jr
Department of Pediatrics, Louisiana State University Health Sciences Center

Abstract

Based solely on clinical clues from a malnourished population, thiamin alone was intentionally and successfully injected to human cases with some tumors or masses. Two cases of submandibular gland cyst and 13 out of 15 cases of Baker's cyst were cured without recurrence for several decades. In a case with pathology-confirmed osteosarcoma, subcutaneous perfusion of thiamin HCl 300 once only reduced its circumference from 30 to 20 cm, equivalent to a reduction of 50-75% in volume, within 2 days.
Current concepts on the role of thiamin in carcinogenesis are controversial. Some authors claimed that thiamin supported high rate of tumor cell survival, proliferation and chemotherapy resistance and suggested anti-thiamin therapy for cancer. On the other hand, some investigators have reported evidence of prevention of several varieties of cancers by dietary thiamin. A limited number of animal studies revealed evident relationship between thiamin deficiency and cancer development. Therefore, further study on the mechanism switching thiamin between cancer supporter and suppressor is needed.

@zaaku said in How did you treat your NAFLD and how long did it take?:

I was consuming 500mg choline via eggs and milk, but added an extra egg 2 days ago to reach 700mg choline per day.

Consider three to four times as much daily choline.

Consider TUDCA and monoterpenes and CoQ10.
Consider a cholagogic of your choice like sylibine, chlorogenic acid (coffee), coffeine, emodine, artichoke leaf extract, gold coin grass, liquorice.

@zaaku said in How did you treat your NAFLD and how long did it take?:

increased my T3 dose to 20-25mcg almost 3 weeks ago which has led to a decrease in appetite.

Consider the possibly detrimental and exacerbarting impact of additional T3 on an already burdened liver.

@LucH @Jakeandpace
That graph, whilst displaying B12+Folate+P5P as the most crucial, does not show B4.
B4 is choline. It's really unfortunate that B4 has been dropped from the "canonical" B vitamins.
In my view all good vitamin b complexes should build up on no less than 150-200mg of choline per dose.
Without choline, supplementation of B vitamins eventually leads to liver damage (Biskind).
It's also super important for the nerves and brain and all organelles as phospatidylcholine in the membranes. Which is a vital building block when stimulating cellular replication with B12 etc.
Choline can be converted to TMG=betaine for methylation purposes. But that's a one-way-pathway, i.e. supplying betaine (or methyl-B12) only spares some choline going into that route. Which is of limited use and perhaps even conflictive if increased methylation results in a metabolic boost (cave: or unfavorable epigenetic silencing) with which overall choline intakes are too low to keep up.

@Serotoninskeptic said:

He also gets jitters and anxiety from coffee which leads me to believe its a nutrient deficiency or thyroid issue. Any advice is appreciated.

He also reported getting cold extremities after drinking the coffee. This leads me to believe cortisol and/or adrenaline are chronically elevated.

Glucose loading cures everything?