Mole Removal Quiz
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You got 1 month maximum to remove a very unsightly mole. Surgical removal not allowed. If it's not gone by the end of the month, you'll be forced to pufa max for a week straight. What's your approach?
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(Please help me I can't see these moles anymore and I don't want to spend several hundreds if not thousand bucks on surgery).
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I've successfully removed moles with apple cider vinegar (probably any mild acid would work). Gently lance the mole with a needle, put ACV on a small cotton ball, put the wet cotton on top of the mole, cover it with a bandaid, and leave on overnight. Repeat. Takes a few weeks but the acid eats the mole.
I have given a name to my pain and call it ‘dog.’ It is just as faithful, just as obtrusive and shameless, just as entertaining, just as clever as any other dog (Nietzsche)
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Some moles flatten and disappear by electrocauterization from the surface, layer by layer, after rubbing off the cauterized previous layer each time after a couple of days. However, some others don't respond to that but maintain a very rigid "core".
I'm not believing the topical DHEA at the edges method >1/2 year long: Maybe in some special conditions but not as a general method anyway. I don't have the patience for a 1 year long MCT application either.
Probably cauterization/ablation by microinjections would be the way to go. Either directly or indirectly as told by orgon, perhaps complemented with a rather high % of DMSO to enhance penetration.
I've seen some reports on single injections of 5% or 10% Rose bengal eradicating melanoma etc. through apoptosis; but that happened over the course of >1/2 year and left some scarring behind and the uptake/enrichment mechanism seems to be speficic to non-normal cells.
Some dyes can be chemically agitated by photodynamic therapy (PDT). E.g. bengal rose by green light upon which it kills (skin) cells. In such a case the spread of the injected substance or the targeting of the (laser) light must be kept focussed on the mole. I wouldn't have such optical equipment at home.@orgon The ACV you used would have had a concentration of c. 5% acetic acid?
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@Peater0921 said in Mole Removal Quiz:
You got 1 month maximum to remove a very unsightly mole. Surgical removal not allowed. If it's not gone by the end of the month, you'll be forced to pufa max for a week straight. What's your approach?
Thyroid function and estrogen have been shown to play a role so long-term, I would address moles via diet and lifestyle—I had a mole, one that oddly enough 3 of my family members also had in the same spot, disappear through diet alone. For quicker fixes, my brother removed a large mole he had on his wrist using ACV and there were two members on the old RPF who successfully removed moles, one using Progest-E and DMSO, and the other using iodine:
https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/mole-removal.8613/#post-428259
https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/mole-removal.8613/#post-428259https://www.amandashealthjournal.com/blog/how-to-remove-a-mole-yourself-with-pictures
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@Jennifer Ohh, I like iodine. I think it would be more effective than ACV just judging by the potency. I have a 12% lugol's lying around somewhere. I see in the third article you linked, they mention 2% and 5%. You think 12% is overkill and I should buy a separate 2%/5%?
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I've had success treating skin growths with cyproheptadine (acting in a systemic way here).
Otherwise, DHT in DMSO is the only thing I've found to quickly provoke healing in a topical manner. Within an hour or two I can expect healing in the tissue. So that would be my suggestion. I've found Prog + DHEA in ethanol does not have the same quick effect. Maybe longer term application (week or more continuous) would work but I haven't tried that yet.
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@Peater0921, most of the success stories using iodine that I’ve come across included a warning not to go higher than 5%. My concern would be scarring with 12% potency.
I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith
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What are the causes of increasing number of moles? I’ve had a lot appear in the past years and it’s kinda concerning.
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@GreekDemiGod I'm also wondering. Have a ton on my back but not appearing, since birth. No idea about the origins of it. I think even Peat wrote in one his articles about their mysterious nature.
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@Jennifer I see. I don't mind trying the 5% but I'm worried that it's gonna take ages
Someone else recommended me sodium hydroxide, not sure if that's worth a try. -
Is it mole or a skin tag?
Skin tags have been associated with blood sugar issues.
You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. 👀
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@DavidPS Yeah I heard about that. Don't have any of those, but I have a ton of moles for some reason. Are they associated to blood sugar in any way too? Or are they really entirely a genetic thing?
I still don't really understand, what function do they serve anyways? They're essentially benign skin growths that form from binding of melanocytes, and although rare, can become cancerous. But what's the point of these growths? And by that definition, does that mean more moles = higher chance of skin cancer?
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@orgon said in Mole Removal Quiz:
I've successfully removed moles with apple cider vinegar (probably any mild acid would work). Gently lance the mole with a needle, put ACV on a small cotton ball, put the wet cotton on top of the mole, cover it with a bandaid, and leave on overnight. Repeat. Takes a few weeks but the acid eats the mole.
I tried that many years ago and it was succesful for most places. However, one mole I treated that way actually got bigger instead of disappearing, which freaked me out.
Two years ago I tried the ACV on two elevated moles on my leg, but without the needle. I just put a cotton ball with ACV on that place for 30 minutes a day, and it disappeared after a few weeks. There's still a little redness on that place, but you hardly notice.
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@DavidPS said in Mole Removal Quiz:
Is it mole or a skin tag?
Skin tags have been associated with blood sugar issues.
I don't know if it's a coincidence, but the people I know with visible skin tags (on the neck for example) are all obese.
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@Peater0921 said in Mole Removal Quiz:
@Jennifer I see. I don't mind trying the 5% but I'm worried that it's gonna take ages
Someone else recommended me sodium hydroxide, not sure if that's worth a try.I understand. I guess it just depends on what you think would bother you more when going the caustic route (ACV, iodine, sodium hydroxide)—it taking longer to see results or potential scarring. Also, if you do decide on high potency iodine, you may want to keep an eye on your thyroid function. I would think even topically it can have an effect on the thyroid.
About the cause of moles—mine correlate with my thyroid function (an increase in moles with weak thyroid function and a decrease in moles with strong thyroid function), and Ray shared a similar experience. From an email exchange:
Moles
I’ve always been very cautious about moles, since I think they have the potential to degenerate into metastatic cancer. Around 1978, I had been watching one on my belly, that had enlarged from an original nearly flat soft light brown mole, to a large, irregular, leathery black thing. A couple of doctors had urged me to have it removed. I happened to be experimenting with steroids, including DHEA, at the time. One night as I went to bed, I saw what looked like a maraschino cherry on my belly, with a black crumb on its top; the black thing brushed off, leaving a spot of blood on the red dome, and I realized that it was my mole. Over the next 3 days the red sphere gradually deflated, and what remained was the soft, flat light brown original mole. Every few years I have had suddenly emerging moles, of various sizes and colors. Each time I would apply some progesterone or DHEA dissolved in vitamin E to the surrounding skin. If I applied it to just one side, there would be an emigration of cells on the other side, like a moving shadow of the mole, and the mole would lose volume and become lighter in color. When I had been in Florida and stopped using thyroid because of the heat and humidity, a 2 centimeter diameter mole (jumbo black olive-like) grew in front of my ear during 2 or 3 weeks. A soon as I returned to Oregon I started using thyroid, and the mole immediately began shrinking and fading. About two weeks later, the pale remnant on a dry stalk fell off, without leaving a scar. Since then I have generally recommended just becoming slightly hyperthyroid, if a person is generally in good health with enough cholesterol for conversion to the hormones), and other people have had similar experiences with very quickly shrinking moles.
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@Peater0921 said in Mole Removal Quiz:
I have a ton of moles for some reason. Are they associated to blood sugar in any way too? Or are they really entirely a genetic thing?
Skin tags and moles are different. I have read that others have found that their skin tags have spontaneously disappeared by changing their diet. I have not heard of any stories about moles being clearly related to diet. Maybe others who are reading this thread can benefit from knowing this distinction.
I am not certain that moles are an entirely a genetic thing. My amateur opinion is that new moles may be related to mismatch between our genes and our environment. Food is big interaction with our environment that can be changed. Chemical free "safe sun exposure" is another change we can make to lower the risk from the mismatch.
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Is it dangerous to just remove it with a sharp knife?
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@Jennifer Yes, I've read this article. I've also seen this text in the image below from Peat:
The thing is, I've supplemented with thyroid for a long time before, and there was essentially zero change in my moles...
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@DavidPS I see, thank you for sharing!
