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    • orgonO
      orgon
      last edited by orgon

      Starting a topic on it because there were multiple good ones on the old forum. I started doing this in late 2023, I actually maxed out my donations in 2024 (six times — every eight weeks). Here's a post on it from another thread:

      https://bioenergetic.forum/post/33910

      I recently read an article that reminded me that running blood through an apheresis machine is one of the few ways to reliably filter out microplastics. The only way to access free apheresis is to donate plasma or platelets, I previously only donated whole blood but I'm now thinking I should try platelets (plasma donation is much more Peaty than platelets, but they won't take my plasma due to my blood type). I'm wondering how I can avoid them running their citric acid saline solution back into me with the filtered blood... Maybe I will say I'm allergic?

      Tao Lin claimed here that he simply asked them not to use it and that was enough:

      https://taolin.substack.com/p/my-leech-journey-part-one

      I have given a name to my pain and call it ‘dog.’ It is just as faithful, just as obtrusive and shameless, just as entertaining, just as clever as any other dog. (Nietzsche)

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      • orgonO
        orgon @orgon
        last edited by orgon

        Looking into this some more... American Red Cross will not let you opt out of the citrate in their saline when doing any apheresis-involved donation (platelets or plasma)... They require you to take a Tums, even though oral calcium has not really been shown to be very effective for reducing hypocalcemia:

        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28653765

        (link borrowed from https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/donating-blood-plasma.23942)

        It's possible Vitalant or other free nonprofit providers have different policies, need to investigate...

        That said, the question is whether the benefits of free apheresis (reduction of microplastics in bloodstream, reduction of toxins like glyphosate, both of which have few other remedies, let alone free and widely available ones) outweigh the possible harms (which no one asserts are anything more than temporary). It seems to me the answer has to be yes.

        I have given a name to my pain and call it ‘dog.’ It is just as faithful, just as obtrusive and shameless, just as entertaining, just as clever as any other dog. (Nietzsche)

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        • sunsunsunS
          sunsunsun @orgon
          last edited by sunsunsun

          @orgon why do you say this when all these things come out in sweat urine and feces? secondly how much new exposure are you getting from the bags and tubing and etc they use?

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          • orgonO
            orgon @sunsunsun
            last edited by orgon

            @sunsunsun I don't see what the bags or tubing would do, the only thing that makes contact with the inside of your body is the metal draw needle

            I wrote out a long reply to your other question but it got deleted, I'll let others chime in on that for now

            I have given a name to my pain and call it ‘dog.’ It is just as faithful, just as obtrusive and shameless, just as entertaining, just as clever as any other dog. (Nietzsche)

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            • orgonO
              orgon @sunsunsun
              last edited by orgon

              @sunsunsun Oh I recovered my other reply:

              This is based on research I've read, I don't know why it is but it seems to be true that things come out in bloodletting that don't get naturally filtered via our other systems — which after all didn't evolve to deal with things like microplastics or glyphosate. And there are other benefits we don't seem to fully understand. People who donate blood simply have lower all-cause mortality. There's some good stuff from Ray about it in the thread I linked above. And bloodletting has been used as medicine for thousands of years (and don't get me started on leeches, they have all kinds of benefits beyond what you get from donating blood — there are some great leech threads on the old forum).

              I have given a name to my pain and call it ‘dog.’ It is just as faithful, just as obtrusive and shameless, just as entertaining, just as clever as any other dog. (Nietzsche)

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              • sunsunsunS
                sunsunsun @orgon
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                @orgon wow cool
                thanks for the info

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