A Treatise on the Neumale
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@LetTheRedeemed idk im just yapping
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@sunsunsun here you dropped this
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sounds Jungian. "Puer eternus" goes to this point.
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@Corngold interesting. I’ll look that up
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@LetTheRedeemed
yes. It's a whole thing. Peter Pan syndrome, Puer eternus, etc. My opinion, it's definitely being forced onto men via gay+, infantilization, isolation, techmology, drugs, etc. The devouring mother is definitely being forced on women via feminism, pill, hypergamy, abortion, etc. It requires manipulation of both genders in my opinion. Courtly love is irrelevant because women have a million options. Men's refinement becomes mere homosexuality, etc. -
@sunsunsun indeed. Women are literally the devouring mother, while dudes are suffering total twinkification def con / norwood 4 by 25. By design. Also mass shootings I'm quite certain are fake.
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@Corngold The only part I disagree with is the idea that it's principally a woman problem.
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@LetTheRedeemed yeah I didn't watch that specific video but there are several on Jung Aion channel with a lady, Marie-Louise von Franz, who was one of Jung's students, and was analyzed by him. She goes into all of this but frames it as a modernity and almost anti-feminine problem dating to medieval times. Her point is Mary became the innocent / divine / perfect feminine in that time, replacing an earthly Eve feminine. I won't say I'm sold on it, but it is interesting, given that Troubador poets in France and Spain and probably most of Europe ended by the 1500s (if not mid 1400s). Look at some of the poetry and you'll find very lewd and vulgar language in the 13th century (lol). Maybe Eve did rule over that period's divine feminine.
Cervantes was Spanish and Spain was under Arab / Jew rule and mixed with Greek, Germanic, etc cultures. I.e., it was very worldly and certainly not a Catholic monarchy. All of the rigidity I believe was Council of Trent / counter-reformation tactics. Quixote is fairly lewd at times. I would guess it is repeating older stories, too, not just what happened mid to late 16th century in Cervantes' time.
To me, that makes sense, but probably the WWI and WWII divine feminine was what Franz called "Sophia" or basically wisdom embodied by women, taken to its logical end. It is similar to Aristophanes' Assemblywoman in real life - women rule society and replace men because gender no longer "matters." In her view there are four feminine archetypes (Eve, Mary, Helen, Sophia). In my view they must be cyclical or at least rhythmic in every culture and possibly globally. For instance, Helen and Mary are known for beauty and warmth; Sophia is colder and Eve is visceral. I think that Sophia leading to Eve is very telling of Rosie-the-Riveter turned Margaret Sanger and every other "strong woman" ultimately deconstructing and destroying any Helen or Mary figure of women. That leads then back to Eve. That's also where we're at. I would also call it Lilith, because Jewish / Christian lore also includes the gnostic Adam and Lilith myth which supposedly occurred before Eve. Either way Lilith and Eve are similar and identified as sinister, but also maybe dumb i.e., "I'm just a girl."
Lol enough for me today.
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@Corngold bro this is gold I promise I've been saving it for a day I can really relish it
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@Corngold ah so I wasn't referencing the video I was sharing when I said I didn't think women were at fault, I was referencing your comment, that part I disagree with
I think women get blame kinda like a child is to be blamed for their bad decision. Yes, they made the choice, but who built the environment. And that's why I'll forever be a masculinist in my assessment of the dynamics of the sexes -- it's always man's responsibility at the end of the day, women have cunning and deception, but like a child trying to trick a parent with even clever lies, a parent's best guard is to be unwavering in stable and wise conduct, and they will weather conflict well -- this requires a discipline, most parents, indeed men, don't have.
On to the point of the types of feminine, I'm always one for some classical skull calipers and their categorizations, but I feel like it's back seat to man with huge balls going apeshit on the opp.
I think women (and men) have changing charactar traits according to circumstance/environment. I don't believe it's set in stone... For instance, which came first: Hitler, or WW1 and it's consequences?
