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    Dietary Lithium, Silicon, and Boron

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      DavidPS
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      Lithium, silicon, and boron are trace elements that may play significant roles in human health. They are not classified as essential nutrients but have been studied for their potential health benefits. Multiple mechanistic findings suggest that small exposures can produce measurable biological effects.

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      Dietary Lithium, Silicon, and Boron: An Updated Critical Review of Their Roles in Metabolic Regulation, Neurobiology, Bone Health, and the Gut Microbiome (2026)

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        sunsunsun @DavidPS
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        idk about "small exposure" cuz silicon in diets can be 50mg per day just from food

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          DavidPS @sunsunsun
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          @sunsunsun said in Dietary Lithium, Silicon, and Boron:

          idk about "small exposure" cuz silicon in diets can be 50mg per day just from food

          Your AI is different than my AI. My AI indicates that 30mg is typical.

          The question is whether people are seeing improvements in their hair skin and nails after they supplement. Do you think that would be a fair test?

          In animals, not having enough silicon in the diet has stunted growth.

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          Silicon as an essential trace element in animal nutrition (1986)

          The graph from the paper suggests that adequate silicon my be especially important for aortas (including human aortas?).
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            sunsunsun @DavidPS
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            @DavidPS i am well aware of the mogger chicken

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              alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
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              @sunsunsun @davidps Sunsunsuns' grandpa raised those chickens. I heard from a reliable source that he has a casket lined with silicone, to mog in the after life.
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                sunsunsun @alfredoolivas
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                @alfredoolivas I just bought 8 x 750g frozen haricots vert. it begins. they're less than $3 a bag, people are sleeping on them. they dont know.

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                  alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
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                  @sunsunsun How many beans a day!?!?

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                    sunsunsun @alfredoolivas
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                    @alfredoolivas 350g approx + other foods

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                      alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
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                      @sunsunsun I'll try having a pint of indian pale ale and 100g oats a day

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                        @sunsunsun "The original study found that beers contained an average of 29.4 mg/L of silicon, with India Pale Ales showing the highest silicon content at 41.2 mg/L"
                        https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2025/02/is-beer-good-for-bone-health/#:~:text=The original study found that,content at 41.2 mg%2FL.

                        "Silicon Content: Studies indicate oat bran contains roughly 14.03 ± 7.69 mg of silicon per 100g, making it one of the highest sources among cereals."

                        4l of milk has 3mg around.

                        So 21 + 14 + 3 = 38mg. I think silicon maxxing at the expense of milk would be counteractive for my transformation into moggy chicken. So this level shouldn't make me deficient and is a good compromise, because oats can be made using milk (porridge).

                        Though I am worried excess opiods from beer.

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                          @sunsunsun perhaps a silicon supplement is suitable, but most use silicon dioxide (not bioavaliable, and nano particles can cause serious issues) and the ones that use orthosililic acid are pretty low dose.

                          https://ie.iherb.com/pr/silicium-laboratories-orgono-living-silica-collagen-booster-22-5-mg-33-8-fl-oz-1-l/99646

                          This one doesn't use sililic acid but monomethylsilanetriol - I don't know how much sililic acid this converts into, but it is effective in raising silicon levels. Though I read something about safety concers.

                          Fiji water is probably the best supplement but it's not available in supermarkets in the EU, but aquiring it would be an easy mog.

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                            alfredoolivas @alfredoolivas
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                            https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fiji-Water-500-Pack-24/dp/B007OTZ8RA?th=1

                            Could be an easy mog.... 500ml a day would provide 41mg!!

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                              alfredoolivas @alfredoolivas
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                              Volvic water has 32mg a Litre
                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvic_(mineral_water)

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                                alfredoolivas @sunsunsun
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                                @sunsunsun Hydrated Silicon Dioxide found in foods is apparently bioavailable.

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                                  CrumblingCookie @alfredoolivas
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                                  @alfredoolivas
                                  What about some cups of horsetail (equisetum) tea every day?

                                  There was some controversy about the volvic water in that it used to be better. Reportedly their silicic acid content greatly changed because they expanded the sources they draw from. I also think it used to taste different 15-20years ago but that's super subjective.

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                                    alfredoolivas @CrumblingCookie
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                                    @CrumblingCookie Mmm water companies test their water daily, so I doubt the label is untrue.

                                    Horse tail and any other solid food/supplement, contains silica in the form of silicon dioxide. All plant silica is hydrated apprently, so it should absorb well.

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                                      CrumblingCookie @alfredoolivas
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                                      @alfredoolivas you're right, I've mixed things up. The reports weren't on silicone but other, much less tangible changes of volvic properties. Like a unique bacterial profile, perhaps even phages. Or something special about the polymeric silicone structure. They've implemented filtering methods which probably also influenced those (Volvic used to contain much greater (elevated) amounts of arsenic and they've brought that down to now <5mcg/l).

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