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      LucyJ
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      Has anyone sorted out hydrogen sulfide sibo?
      I take oregano oil and bismuth and thiassist which contains molybdenum and a b complex but it just continues to be an issue for me.

      I just feel like death physically a lot of the time and think it’s because of this. When it’s bad I get Nausea, dizzy, Insomnia, night sweats.

      I take 1 grain NP a day. I’ve played around with thyroid but this long standing gut imbalance seems to really be my issue.

      I recently ate too many Sulfur foods and set it off again

      Any ideas please share!

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        sunsunsun @LucyJ
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        @LucyJ add regular gut cleaning food such as raw veg, raw cabbage works really well

        lower fat

        worked for me when i had what i think was h2s too mu

        zero issues now on more reasonable fat diet max 20% faf of total calories

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          LucH @LucyJ
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          @LucyJ said in H2S sibo recurrence:

          Any ideas please share!

          See dr. Antonello D'Oro for adequate protocol.

          *) Key information on SIBO/SIFO

          • SIBO, when your health problems come from the small intestine, Part 1: Understanding and diagnosing (In French; translator needed)
            https://www.lanutrition-sante.ch/le-sibo-quand-vos-problemes-de-sante-viennent-de-lintestin-grele-partie-1-comprendre-et-diagnostiquer/
            *) SIBO : l’invasion des mauvaises bactéries dans votre intestin
            SIBO: Invasion of bad bacteria in your intestine
            https://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t1131-sibo-pullulation-bacterienne#11611
            => Key ideas
          • The microbiota is the center of our immunity.
          • If you regularly suffer from bloating, belching, flatulence, gastric reflux, abdominal pain and/or diarrhea, or even unexplained fatigue, most of these disorders come from the small intestine where there is an excess bacteria (SIBO).
            There is a close link between bacterial overgrowth and celiac disease (irritable bowel or IBS).
          • SIBO, FODMAP, gluten sensitivity, lactose intolerance, etc. contribute to low-grade inflammation of the intestinal mucosa. However, low-grade inflammation weakens intestinal tightness (leaky gut). This opens the door to the autoimmune reaction.
          • Understand the process that leads to intestinal permeability: ---
            X
            How to deal with a recently installed SIBO / SIFO
            It is an abnormal proliferation, bacterial and / or fungal, in the small intestine, causing multiple digestive and extra-digestive symptoms. Problems of intestinal hyperpermeability may be associated with this. When you have a methane sibo, the stagnation of materials in the large bowel + gas causes distensions that the bowel is not designed to handle.
            Basis of treatment – The Sibo is recently installed.
            The symptoms are less than a year old. We assume a low-noise bacterial-sounding IBS (IBS = Intestinal Bacterial Syndrome). Therefore we can ignore a biofilm disruptor as a precursor to the treatment. But we need a coordinated approach against excess intestinal bacteria: ration – stun – eradicate.
            Strategy to attack bacterial biofilm Intestinal peristalsis (MMC) will be facilitated with a prokinetic: for example with Résolor 0.5 mg. Resolor will boost MMC in phase 3 (regular activity phase), when we are in the inter-digestive period, in order to evacuate waste. This must be done every night in order to achieve 100% evacuation. So Sibo will no longer be able to develop. The ideal is to start a 12-hour fast after the evening meal and to observe an inter-digestive space of 5 hours between each meal in order to allow the MMC to do its work also during the day.
            MMC: Migrating Motor Complex
            Example of Siebecker Treatment Protocol (Pimentel 2006): https://servimg.com/view/19831774/635
            Treatment
            • Diet oriented, if desired, to facilitate the assimilation of macronutrients. This restrictive diet is poor in fermentable foods but will be limited in time, taking into account the terrain (intolerances and state of the digestive system).
            • Antimicrobial treatment (antibiotics or plants) adapted to the type of SIBO/SIFO (hydrogen or methane). For example, I used these essential oils: Ceylon Cinnamon, Clove, Mountain Savory and Lemon EO. Peppermint EO, with ginger and fennel. Oregano EO. Some people use berberine successfully.
            NB: EOs are preferably entero-protected (soft gels) in order to reach the 2nd part of the colon and to avoid attack on the intestinal mucosa.
            • Prokinetics: I used Resolor 0.5 mg. We must prevent stagnation of faeces.
            • Supply of useful nutrients (intestinal tightness / against leaky gut) via drink (water), with L-glutamine kyowa 15-20 gr. To compensate for the excitatory effect of glutamine, I use glycine (hydrolyzed collagen) and magnesium. But not only (taurine and B1 required ...)
            • Support digestion processes and the integrity of the intestinal wall with useful nutrients. For example lipase enzymes, betaine HCL. I used other nutrients to facilitate intestinal sealing (glutamine, butyrate). No glutamine when suffering from candidiasis (candida albicans) because it feeds the fungus.
            • A reduction in factors that aggravate SIBO/SIFO such as stress or certain medications.
            NB: Useful information: Dr Marc Pimentel, + Dr Bella Lindemans, Dr Nirala Jacobi. D’Oro (in French).
            NB: I can give a link for Dr. D’Oro site with more details if you want more information.
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            LucyJ @sunsunsun
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            @sunsunsun erregh I wish I could handle raw veg. They murder my gut and give me the worst anxiety! I can try lower fat

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              LucyJ @LucH
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              @LucH okay from reading this I think I actually just need to do more antimicrobials consistently. I don’t have gluten and only do lactose free dairy. This is long standing so I might need a biofilm disruptor. I’ll try doing the oregano capsules and bismuth 3 times a day and see if I can handle it. I get histamine issues from die off that wrecks my sleep but the oregano does really seem to help the belching even only taking it once a day with breakfast.

              Thanks for sending this through

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                LucH @LucyJ
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                @LucyJ said in H2S sibo recurrence:

                I’ll try doing the oregano capsules and bismuth 3 times a day and see if I can handle it.

                Not the right way. Not enough. Need a coordinated approach. You won't kill all the bacteria, even with a disruptor of biofilm. Bacteria can adapt themselves. If you shoot into water, you've lost one gun, and the phylum becomes resistant.
                Wait and get the whole information before attacking the beast 😉

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