Too high systolic blood pressure?
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I was wondering why I feel tense many mornings after taking a B complex, niacinamide, pyrucet, a coffee protein shake, apple juice, and now thiamine. So, I measured my blood pressure and it was 130/58. A little high, but not bad. I waited a few minutes to see if it would change and it was now 148/6x. Higher, but could be noise. I do it a third time. It's 153/78. Now, 153 is high for systolic, but 78 is fine for diastolic. My resting heart rate was also 90-95. Is such a high reading and large difference an issue or was it just the massively ramped up glucose oxidation? For reference, I haven't checked it at night or midday yet.
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@engineer said in Too high systolic blood pressure?:
was wondering why I feel tense many mornings after taking a B complex, niacinamide, pyrucet, a coffee protein shake, apple juice, and now thiamine.
With an apple juice, caffeine and a B complex, these elements could cause a problem.
Combo caffeine + not enough glucose.
180 ml (6 oz.) apple juice brings 18-20 g sugar:
So 20 g total sugar would be roughly:
• ~11–13 g fructose
• ~6–7 g glucose
• ~1–2 g sucrose
That is not not enough glucose to avoid hypoglycemia. Need more or less 20 glucose.
While you’ve got 8 g maximum direct available carbs, you get an adrenaline boost from caffeine. If you lack carbs, you’ll get an adrenalin reaction + cortisol effect.
Second, if you get more than 20-25 niacin in your B-complex (OK if niacinamide), you could get a histamine reaction (+ PGD2 induced)
If you want to isolate it experimentally, change the fruit juice (without fiber) for a coffee with 3 tsp beet sugar (or cane sugar if you prefer) and a small snack.
Proteins without enough sugar stimulate an insulin spike. Amplified here. Problem then.Useful info:
Est-ce que la caféine affecte la gestion de la glycémie ?
Comment le café impacte-t-il l’insuline ?
https://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t1925-glucose-revolution#27003 -
@LucH My glass of apple juice was about 12oz and I had a real apple as well, so glucose might not have been an issue here. I have had hypoglycemia in the past from not enough carbs, and I usually get really tired when that happens. Thanks for the insight!
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If I say hyperosmolar you might limit an association to glucose or hypertonic to sodium.
You're supposed to be a bit thick the morning, but not too much. Create a control condition and see what 250 ml to a pint of water does to it. You can relate this to lots of other self and environmental observations. If it wasn't palatable it didn't necessarily mean you didn't 'need' it.
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Uh oh, I just did two more BP tests and got 159/86 and 151/83. Not the best results but maybe it takes some time for thiamine to get metabolized? Note that I didn't feel like this with the same combination without thiamine.
