Is Sam Sulek ugly gymcel cope being passed off as "based and sigma"?
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another thing noticeable here is that you can't have fun without renting a free space inside the minds of some fags and that people love to cope their own mediocrity by cherry picking extreme cases. You can't talk about beauty or aesthetic standards being a sub 170lbs pencil neck with spaguetti arms, non existent legs and some pretty weak yet visible abs (mostly because of really low levels of bodyfat). Yet, these weaklings will be the first to tell you they are actually sane, healthy and that you suffer from some mental disorder.
Kalokagathia
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@Arvidivs Body dismorphia or bigorexia is a real phenomenon, the best thing is not to wish ill or be mean to people who seem to have it,
Your example of a great physique joshua Kenyon is a guy who has an infentin face, with disproportionate muscle volume and a thin neck(something you seem to criticize) relative to his head and body, and you said you personally do body building for the perception of men and not women
In most cases, no amount of muscle in itself is going to make a man feel good, masculine and serene, and comfortable talking to and good looking from women's perspective
The majority of men who have a higher degree of Masculinity, energy, althetism, serenity, who are comfortable with and who appear good looking to women(in case you're talking to them), don't have a body built with disproportionate muscles, whether it's some of the hunter-gatherers, known people, people in our environnement
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@Runenight201 @Arvidivs I hate him for being a subhuman Polak
former mentally ill drug addict, planning on living in Ghana learning Twi and meeting lots of fine (non-obese) Bantu women.
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@Truth that's a lot of cherry picking. To begin with i work out for myself and to match my ideals of a good and "healthy" (on quote because it is a very biased word) life. I didn't say i work for male perception, i said if it was to take in consideration perceptions from other people i would rather take the ones from other males over females (the later being worthless to me), since 99% of women cant comprehend the implications of masculine activities such as the physical culture. There's a trick when it comes to female perception as well, domestication mechanisms (longhouse) are very common in the relation of females with their partners and to submit to them is a way to improve the control of your woman towards yourself (i'm not implying women are evil or something like that, just using a phenomenon to complement my point). Women have a tendency to dismiss much of the value of your physique or to tell you they don't like anything beyond the "lean with abs" standard because even though the fitness industry is really big people with impressive physiques (and lets take in consideration just the natural ones) are pretty rare amongst the general population. Women instinctively know about this fact and cope to maintain the value of attraction on them.
You're right no amount of muscles by themselves can give these positive traits to a man, but you're missing quite of a bigger picture here (you're either doing it out of bad faith or you're dumber than i thought), training is not limited to muscles. There's a chain of metabolic processes that happens when you train and they will have an impact on many things on your body including on your mind and the way you think. Training can improve your testosterone levels, your sensitivity to insulin, it will regulate your cortisol levels, it will stimulate the release of GH and many other things. These along with the aesthetic result can positively affect your confidence, cognitive capacity and social anxiety, things that are important to talk to people and, more specifically, to women (and again, i see it more as a positive consequence than your whole reason for working out).
You're talking about a very vague archetype that can range through very different types of men, but i suspect you're speaking it out of self-awareness to promote yourself as this ideal. You look like shit (literally, you're brown). Your arms are thin and lacking of muscular development and i suspect your legs find themselves in the same or in an even worst situation. Your torso has some development although just a little, yet it is enough to make it disproportionate with your limbs, lower back and neck. Given this i dont think you're in a position to say if Joshua's physique is either ugly or disproportionate as you suffer from these two in a way worse degree.Kalokagathia
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@Love_The_Blacks now we talking lmao
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@Love_The_Blacks I second this. #WeHatePolaks. Sam seems alright though. I respect his lack of irony poisoning and his straightforward sincere "I just want to get big."
he's way better than Solbrah the rapist (Solbrah also likely raped Wil Stancil the Hicklib journalist)
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@Arvidivs Women don't know what they want in general. This is why they cannot function in single parent homes, they cannot function when single, and they say insane stuff like "I like malnourished guys with good personalities."
If you know anyone 6'0" or taller who has a good physique from lifting weights then you know he gets way more girls than he would were he skinny.
As someone who got injured in my late teens and couldn't train until my mid-20s I can tell you the difference is huge. Bodyfat is key as well, but girls like size. When I was a 6'3" skinny guy I got girls, but when I gained muscle and dropped to 15% BF I got WAY more attention. It's ridiculous to say anything otherwise.
Neck is key. Train neck if you're lanky.
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@Arvidivs You said you were bodybuilding not for your own perception, but for the perception of other men, and that bodybuilding for the perception of women is "gay", it sounds homosexual, you can go read what you wrote again in context. Who in the "fitness industry" is a guy with a little round and childish, non masculine, undefined bone structure, and a lot of muscle disproportionate to the size of his body like Joshua, appeals to women?
Women's actions and/or statements about what they like physically are a better indicator than claims from guys with body dismorphia and bigorexia who potentially talk to women very little if at all
I'm not missing out on the big picture.
You're the one who's "dumb" at the moment, I know a lot of people IRL and online who have done body building for years, have big muscles and are still just as insecure and still have a round face, child like or baby face (free to them), your theoretical idea of "chain of metabolic process" doesn't seem to work in most cases on these aspects.I didn't imply that I was an ideal, you're projecting your own tendencies
"You look like shit" lolol to be so mad, it wouldn't surprise me if you are Joshua, and that's why you're still emotionally hurt by what I said on the other post, your mother told me she loved my body when we saw each other.
No "Very vague archetype", most guys who tend to have a degree of Masculinity, energy, athletism, and that women like, are not guys with big round muscles relative to their body to the point where it seems absurd, and no baby face either
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@Arvidivs You seem to hate brown people, I'm pale initially, on the screenshot I was spending time outside in the sun for month, that would make you feel better, where I live the majority of people have that kind of skin color or darker
I do real one-arm pull-ups, front lever, muscle up, with out working out, I don't feel heavy, slow, and mediocre well being
and if bodybuilding is so positive for you, why the emotional problems,body dismorphia and potentially the rond,undefined Bone structure in the face?
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Gay thread
Good things are immeasurably costly
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@skylark fr niggas come out of nowhere just to hate
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@Truth what race/subrace are you? this is important. In the future peating will be for Whites only. A PEATY ethnostate
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How are you going to stop a non-white person from drinking 2 quarts of milk and 1 quart of oj a day?
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I agree with your analysis of gym culture. Steroid use and health and lifespan are mutually exclusively. You’re burning the candle faster at the end to look a certain way.
To me, the most aesthetically pleasing body is one that is capable of doing the most fundamental human movements incredibly well, which are standing, walking, running, throwing, and using tools. These are the traits which evolution designed our bodies for, and so it is most rational for optimal health and function to train in relation to these things. Anything else is not in line with optimal health and well-being. Bodybuilders don’t live a long time because the lifestyle is not conducive to good health.
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@Runenight201 harsh punishments.
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@Aryan_Racist Sub-optimal question and idea,
"Peating" is for everyone, even people who you don't like and who stress you out because of their skin color
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@Truth stress from being around browns blacks and jews is definitely not peaty
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@Aryan_Racist it's not, yet the optimal action in this case is not to idealize "white" skin color and disdain other skin colors, we were all babies at some point, we can have and/or tend to a high degree of energy, well being, positive impact on others regardless of our skin color
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What type of harsh punishments?
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@Aryan_Racist THESE GHANIAN WOMEN
would stress u out? nigga u GAY as fuck
former mentally ill drug addict, planning on living in Ghana learning Twi and meeting lots of fine (non-obese) Bantu women.
