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Iodine prevents lipid peroxidation, induces cancer cell apoptosis, antioxidant, immunomodulator, more than doubles tesosterone

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    cornwallis
    last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 8:10 PM

    For those who've supplemented directly with iodine, I have some questions:

    • Firstly, what was the objective of iodine supplementation; and was that achieved?
    • What kind of iodine was taken?
    • In what form was the iodine taken?
    • At what dosage and frequency were benefits noticed?
    • Conversely, at what dosage and frequency were side effects noticed?
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      S.Holmes @cornwallis
      last edited by Feb 19, 2024, 8:41 PM

      @cornwallis That's a lot of typing! I'll try and answer some of these as I can. I currently take 40 mg Lugols that I mix up myself and 300 mg potassium iodide, daily. Im not consistent. Sometimes I take more, sometimes less.

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        cornwallis @S.Holmes
        last edited by cornwallis Feb 19, 2024, 9:01 PM Feb 19, 2024, 9:01 PM

        @S-Holmes No obligation to answer all of them! I appreciate your response.

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          Ray Peat Fanboy @thyroidchor27
          last edited by Feb 20, 2024, 12:19 AM

          @thyroidchor27

          Yeah that seems like it.

          I like the idea of iodine displacing fluoride. Would you say that it displaces fluoride at a 1:1 ratio? 1 mg of iodine removing 1 mg of stored fluoride?

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            S.Holmes @thyroidchor27
            last edited by Feb 20, 2024, 1:39 AM

            @thyroidchor27 Good article https://drsircus.com/general/why-iodine-is-so-essential/

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              brad @S.Holmes
              last edited by Feb 20, 2024, 4:20 AM

              @S-Holmes How has the Wolff-Chaikoff effect been debunked?

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                S.Holmes @brad
                last edited by S.Holmes Feb 20, 2024, 4:55 PM Feb 20, 2024, 1:48 PM

                @brad
                Wolff-Chaikoff critique
                https://www.optimox.com/content/Iodine Research Resources/IOD04.pdf

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                  Old School @S.Holmes
                  last edited by Feb 20, 2024, 4:42 PM

                  Here are a couple of examples of Ray’s view :

                  “High dose iodine can suppress TSH, since TSH is pro inflammatory iodine can have some anti inflammatory actions but in the long run thyroid suppression becomes a problem”

                  Also

                  “ Iodine reacts easily with toxic PUFA to make anti thyroid molecules “

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                    S.Holmes @Old School
                    last edited by S.Holmes Feb 20, 2024, 4:59 PM Feb 20, 2024, 4:51 PM

                    @Old-School said in Iodine prevents lipid peroxidation, induces cancer cell apoptosis, antioxidant, immunomodulator, more than doubles tesosterone:

                    Here are a couple of examples of Ray’s view :

                    “High dose iodine can suppress TSH, since TSH is pro inflammatory iodine can have some anti inflammatory actions but in the long run thyroid suppression becomes a problem”

                    Also

                    “ Iodine reacts easily with toxic PUFA to make anti thyroid molecules “

                    Lab rat here. I've struggled with hypothyroidism my whole life. I've been a fan of Dr. Peat for more than a decade and still am. His seed and nut oil information was a real game changer and may have saved my life, and I still use his Progest-E and have for many years. But I could never bring my temps up (except under stress). I'm now consistently 98.5 throughout the day. I'm thinking the iodine (and iodine symporters) I'm taking have really helped. The experiment continues.

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                      thyroidchor27 @Old School
                      last edited by Feb 20, 2024, 5:17 PM

                      @Old-School Yea I know. I disagree with him on this and carotene

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                        ora @Ray Peat Fanboy
                        last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 3:38 AM

                        @Ray-Peat-Fanboy I also know many who are on brownstein iodine protocol and feel great. I think what Ray and the studies which showed poor results missed the fact that Iodine supplementation should be supplemented with the supporting nutrients such as selenium, salt, vitamin c.

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                          S.Holmes @ora
                          last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 3:37 PM

                          @ora said in Iodine prevents lipid peroxidation, induces cancer cell apoptosis, antioxidant, immunomodulator, more than doubles tesosterone:

                          @Ray-Peat-Fanboy I also know many who are on brownstein iodine protocol and feel great. I think what Ray and the studies which showed poor results missed the fact that Iodine supplementation should be supplemented with the supporting nutrients such as selenium, salt, vitamin c.

                          I take Lugols that I make at home using iodine plus potassium iodide granules. I buy them from a local compounding pharmacist.
                          Iodine expert Dr. Jorge Flechas says many who don't do well taking Lugols or potassium iodide have a defective sodium/iodide symporter, and that should be addessed before taking iodine. Here is a good explanation of the symporter defect and how to repair it.

                          https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,124702

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                            JulofEnoch @thyroidchor27
                            last edited by Feb 22, 2024, 4:20 PM

                            @thyroidchor27

                            You got the red pills on arachidonic acid as the most dangerous PUFA?

                            Greift nur hinein ins volle Menschenleben! Ein jeder lebt's, nicht vielen ist's bekannt, und wo ihr's packt, da ist's interessant.

                            Ray Peat first-ever interview(July 1987 on UofO Student Radio)

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                              Uroš @Ray Peat Fanboy
                              last edited by Feb 28, 2024, 6:51 AM

                              @Ray-Peat-Fanboy High iodine intake, without sufficient micronutrient support, increases the risk of Hashimoto's, especially in women. Selenium seems to plays a crucial role in protecting the thyroid from further tissue damage caused by excess iodine intake.

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