Why is the Ray Peat community so far right?
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@Peatly Seriously? you get his position? It was complete nonsense. I have no idea what he's even saying.
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@CO3 I think he is saying that the term “far right” is being used too liberally :- )
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@Peatly i assume he's not aware of the people this thread is referring to. the ones on twitter that are pretending to believe in Ray Peat's ideas.
There is a point of agreement in that I, as a Marxist, don't think their beliefs differ radically from your average liberal's, but that's a different matter.
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@CO3 you are the dumbest person on the forum, which goes to explain why you are a marxist. Everyone else managed to understand Solrig's point. We also understand that gib me that is not a viable political solution. I can guarantee that you look like the typical Bearnie fan. You are not handsome and well dressed, which means that you are not as valued by other humans as I am. Everyone loves me, while I enjoy the spoils of capitalism.
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FWIW I don't think I'm far-right. I'm a libertarian especially when it comes to fractional reserve banking and central banking. Not in the "oh dirty Jews own the banks" kind of way either. But because they cause the boom-bust cycles in the economy. I'm also libertarian on most of the social issues. The LGBTQ stuff is where I tend to draw the line out and become slightly more conservative. If only because I don't believe little children should be indoctrinated in that stuff. As for the adults, I ostensibly have no problem with gays and transgenders.
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@CO3 Marx and Lenin didn't have theory or ideas. They just hated successful white Christian people ("reactionaries", "the bourgeoisie") due to their own ethnic and social backgrounds, and wanted a pseudo-intellectual ideology to justify it. Simple as.
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@Mulloch94 Well said
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@Norwegian-Mugabe Again, it doesn't really matter but I am. It's sad you care that much about being uglier than me, it doesn't suit a man to think like that. I mean that genuinely, it is very pathetic and makes me sad. Unless you're like 18 it's completely unforgivable as a man to act like that.
It's sad that you guys have such a problem being completely useless and politically castrated. It clearly eats away at you, so you should look into that instead of attempting to argue with your intellectual superiors quite literally in the way a toddler would ("No I am cool everybody likes me. i have the coolest toddler clothes and cool watches! i'm the coolest kid at daycare by far!")
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@VehmicJuryman You're on a Jewish-run forum! Get out! We love Jews here!
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Marx and Lenin were poor thinkers and wicked humans. Some jews are great, many jews are ok, but most jews are neurotic and spiteful. Christianity is the truth, and we should act accordingly.
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@CO3 said in Why is the Ray Peat community so far right?:
@Peatly i assume he's not aware of the people this thread is referring to. the ones on twitter that are pretending to believe in Ray Peat's ideas.
There is a point of agreement in that I, as a Marxist, don't think their beliefs differ radically from your average liberal's, but that's a different matter.
I'm not on twitter
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@Peatly Good!
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Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you. Your riches have rotted and your garments are moth-eaten. Your gold and silver have corroded, and their corrosion will be evidence against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have laid up treasure in the last days. Behold, the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you kept back by fraud, are crying out against you, and the cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord of hosts. You have lived on the earth in luxury and in self-indulgence. You have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter.
-Karl Marx or The Bible? Not like this pharisee has even read one sentence of James
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Hi @CO3 you do not have to keep proving that you have an inferior intellect. We are already aware of that.
There are probably hundreds of passages in the Bible that promises proseprity if you follow God. We can thusly assume that wealth creation is a good thing.
There are aslo many stories like Cain and Abel, which suggest that we should accept inequality as a good thing. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
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You cannot even comprehend the passage I have sent you, reading it for the very first time in your life you just have to deflect to your self-admitted """probable""" assumptions about the Bible! You will never respond to it! It works like a deterrent to the likes of you.
You dare to bring up Cain and Abel! Not with passages of course, as reading it scares those that are too wretched to understand it.
Cain gives yet fears not getting! That is the essence of the story, and it is why God did not accept his offer. Anyone can understand it. His motive for his offering was greed. This is what the passage you quoted is another excellent example of. You shall not covet! That is the essential sin we deal with everyday. Others' labor value is coveted, which is why it is stolen.
Cain was a tiller of the land. What he gave was surplus, while Abel's offering was a young sheep. Cain's intentions were impure spiritually and materially.
You are too much of a coward to reply with any depth, but it's worth trying: what part of the story of Cain and Abel tells you to accept inequality?
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@CO3 Hi, in what I've read on the internet, in the story Abel sacrificed a lamb among the flock, why do you make a distinction and not consider it a surplus compare to Cain's sacrifice? What aspect of this passage implicitly or explicitly says that Cain was greed driven and not Abel?
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@Truth
He gave of the firstlings - multiple! possibly valuable females too - AND of their fat! He has no intention to receive better than he gave, unlike his brother. It's a massive difference from giving some grain that you were going to sell. The two professions are very different in the way that you can accumulate
In the New Testament, Christ who lived in a commune also comments upon this spirit of giving:
And he sat down opposite the treasury and watched the people putting money into the offering box. Many rich people put in large sums. And a poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, which make a penny. And he called his disciples to him and said to them, “Truly, I say to you, this poor widow has put in more than all those who are contributing to the offering box. For they all contributed out of their abundance, but she out of her poverty has put in everything she had, all she had to live on.”
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haha @CO3 you are as cowardly as you are dumb. You do not even address the main point of our argument, which is that the Bible is almost entirely a book that promises individual wealth through the right beliefs. my point was correct that there are far more passages and far more emphasis on the gift of wealth in the Bible, rather on the negativ consequences of greed.
The Cain and Abel example was also correct. Cain's motive was not greed, but jealousy. See you later commie.
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@CO3 said in Why is the Ray Peat community so far right?:
@Truth
He gave of the firstlings - multiple! possibly valuable females too - AND of their fat! He has no intention to receive better than he gave, unlike his brother. It's a massive difference from giving some grain that you were going to sell. The two professions are very different in the way that you can accumulate
Do you have any passages from this story to quote that implicitly or explicitly say that abel did not intend to receive better unlike cain, and that Cain intended to sell the grain unlike abel and the lambs?